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4 hours ago, juststalking said:

Do you still recommend hi-presicion even if I have an HMO and I can be looked at and tested sa makatimed and get it covered by insurance? No symptoms, but wanted peace of mind

Personal preference lang yung hi-precision sir, as long as reputable medical facility ok na yan. Get tested where you can.

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20 hours ago, vanderboy said:

Already answered quite well by chad5 but just wanted to add here.. everything you do will have risks, so it is good to minimize where you can but I've also seen GM's go the extreme end and end up ostracizing the people that are still active.

You should try to balance where you can. Masturbating is good every now and then but should not be your sole means of sexual release.. you should also learn to be sexually active with other people/ a partner, just learn to do it safely.(safer - use a rubber, get tested, consider partners with low body counts)

Onga eh agree, kaya always need to be careful as well and consider talaga mga risks for ourselves as well as to keep the community safe as well 👌

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On 12/19/2023 at 8:44 AM, chad5 said:

Una sa lahat, sorry to hear and hoping for your speedy recovery.

Now just want to share that your update gives me relief na totoo ngang pwedeng mahawa through u protected oral sex... kasi i felt gaslit by the thera na sinabihan kong sa kanya ako nahawa. Todo deny siya kesho wala siyang symptoms, and baka daw matagal na akong meron. Dumating yung point na halos naniwala na ako, pero reading your updates, plus frontliner's... tapos parepareho pa tayong chlamydia... it confirms na talaga ngang highly likely na makakuha ang isang tao ng std just through unprotected oral sex.

Nakakatakot...

Get well soon ulit sir...

Bro no worries ok na ako now.. 😁

then share ko lng sabi ng urologist sakin

basta may contact either unprotected sex or oral sex may chance makuha.. lalo na iba iba partner mahirap i pin point kung sino madami din kasing iba wlang symptoms.. may mga sakit daw kasi nakukuha din sa skin to skin contact..  and discreate naman si doc lalaki din wag nalang daw ulitin kasi pangalawang balik ko na sa kanya 😅

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7 hours ago, Prinsloo said:

Parang a year ago sharing of symptoms and best practices lang mababasa mo dito. Ngayun sharing of experiences na. 

May epidemya nga ba ng std sa mtc?

Nangyari lang na may naglakas loob na mag share dito, tapos naging precedent na yun para sa iba na lumantad na din dito sa thread na ito.

Yung mga ibang nahawa din, pinipili nalang nilang manahimik. Kalimitan din kasi, pag may magkwento lalo na sa mga mismong spa threads ng hawa experience nila, kuyog agad sila ng mga defensive na thera na nagkakampihan na. Sasali na din ang mga GM na nagpapaka hero kuno sa mga thera na gusto nilang iskoran. Ang ending ay irereport sila sa moderator, tapos depende sa mod, aalisin ang lahat post at reply tungkol sa kasong hawaan, and then long term ban. Kaya wala kang makikitang kwentong STD sa spa threads..

Pero definitely mas madaming hawaan ngayon kaysa dati. Several years ago HJ lang ang inooffer. BJ pag pogi ka lang at mapera. Pero ngayon halos lahat na ng thera, may "heaven knows" package na.

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5 hours ago, chad5 said:

Nangyari lang na may naglakas loob na mag share dito, tapos naging precedent na yun para sa iba na lumantad na din dito sa thread na ito.

Yung mga ibang nahawa din, pinipili nalang nilang manahimik. Kalimitan din kasi, pag may magkwento lalo na sa mga mismong spa threads ng hawa experience nila, kuyog agad sila ng mga defensive na thera na nagkakampihan na. Sasali na din ang mga GM na nagpapaka hero kuno sa mga thera na gusto nilang iskoran. Ang ending ay irereport sila sa moderator, tapos depende sa mod, aalisin ang lahat post at reply tungkol sa kasong hawaan, and then long term ban. Kaya wala kang makikitang kwentong STD sa spa threads..

Pero definitely mas madaming hawaan ngayon kaysa dati. Several years ago HJ lang ang inooffer. BJ pag pogi ka lang at mapera. Pero ngayon halos lahat na ng thera, may "heaven knows" package na.

In the old MTC, may usapan na may nadale na guest. I cant remember if its at happy or vanus. Yun lang kasi binabasa ko na MP threads dati.

I wonder how do theras handle cases of infection? Nagbabakasyon kaya sila? Yun suspicion ng isang GM na kasama ko kya pag may thera na nawawala ng ilang buwan tapis babalik napapaisip ako baka nagkaroon ng infection.

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On 12/24/2023 at 1:30 AM, delgadoBrother said:

Ang lupit ng effect ng thread na to. Thank you mga boss. Bago pa lang ako sa hobby na to at HJ palang. Tang ina. Gusto ko pa nmn maranasan BBBJ at CIM.

Nako bro always with condom, masarap pag wla pero pag nagkasakit ka  wla ng sarap

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4 hours ago, Prinsloo said:

In the old MTC, may usapan na may nadale na guest. I cant remember if its at happy or vanus. Yun lang kasi binabasa ko na MP threads dati.

I wonder how do theras handle cases of infection? Nagbabakasyon kaya sila? Yun suspicion ng isang GM na kasama ko kya pag may thera na nawawala ng ilang buwan tapis babalik napapaisip ako baka nagkaroon ng infection.

Yes my nabalitan ako before wayback 2016 may gm na government employee (politician sya) ung 2m nya na pera inubos nya sa mga therapist/ mp/ psp kasi my hiv sya bali ang systema nya gusto nya LIVE lang no condom oofferan nya ung therapist/mp/psp ng 5 to 6 digits pra maka LIVE nya pinaka favorite nya pumunta sa Nuru spa that time.im not sure lang kung buhay pa sya.Kinuyog din sya ng mga gm kasi nalaman ung pinag gagawa nya.Gusto talaga nya manghawa kasi ayaw nya na sya lang may HIV.

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9 minutes ago, mtc pratt said:

Yes my nabalitan ako before wayback 2016 may gm na government employee (politician sya) ung 2m nya na pera inubos nya sa mga therapist/ mp/ psp kasi my hiv sya bali ang systema nya gusto nya LIVE lang no condom oofferan nya ung therapist/mp/psp ng 5 to 6 digits pra maka LIVE nya pinaka favorite nya pumunta sa Nuru spa that time.im not sure lang kung buhay pa sya.Kinuyog din sya ng mga gm kasi nalaman ung pinag gagawa nya.Gusto talaga nya manghawa kasi ayaw nya na sya lang may HIV.

Katakot yang mga nanghahawa na yan. It could be theras as well. Knowingly or unknowingly.

Magjowa na lang talaga para unli pop, no time limit, at ultra gfe hehehe

Kaya lang baka due to force oh habit bigyan mo ng 6k after 1 round lol

Baka mabuko ka

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3 minutes ago, Prinsloo said:

Katakot yang mga nanghahawa na yan. It could be theras as well. Knowingly or unknowingly.

Magjowa na lang talaga para unli pop, no time limit, at ultra gfe hehehe

Kaya lang baka due to force oh habit bigyan mo ng 6k after 1 round lol

Baka mabuko ka

Kaya much better talga with condom bro

or better hj and body to body mas safe pa

hawak lang sa boobs kasi syempre pag sa private area hawak k ng thera/mp may fluids un tapos i hawak mo kay manoy. 

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49 minutes ago, mtc pratt said:

Yes my nabalitan ako before wayback 2016 may gm na government employee (politician sya) ung 2m nya na pera inubos nya sa mga therapist/ mp/ psp kasi my hiv sya bali ang systema nya gusto nya LIVE lang no condom oofferan nya ung therapist/mp/psp ng 5 to 6 digits pra maka LIVE nya pinaka favorite nya pumunta sa Nuru spa that time.im not sure lang kung buhay pa sya.Kinuyog din sya ng mga gm kasi nalaman ung pinag gagawa nya.Gusto talaga nya manghawa kasi ayaw nya na sya lang may HIV.

Nakakacurious naman kung sino ito... napreserve kaya ang usapang iyon somewhere sa forums ng MTC? Malamang hindi, pero for sure interesting read sana yun.

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On 12/24/2023 at 1:30 AM, delgadoBrother said:

Ang lupit ng effect ng thread na to. Thank you mga boss. Bago pa lang ako sa hobby na to at HJ palang. Tang ina. Gusto ko pa nmn maranasan BBBJ at CIM.

To be honest... Hit or miss din naman ang BBBJ sa totoo lang. Overrated. May mga iba akong naranasan, halos hindi ko nafeel, kasi literal na sinubo lang tapos walang diin or sipsip. Masabi lang na sinubo. Every 5 seconds pa dudura sa twalya dahil daw may precum. So nakakadistract din. Tapos pinagsisisihan ko lang kasi nagbayad ako for BJ pero eventually nagpa HJ nalang ako para matapos na. As for CIM, it's a 5 second thing na literal hindi mo naman mafifeel. Yung idea lang na nasa bibig nila yung semen mo, yun lang yung nakaka turn on. The idea, not the feeling.

When I was active in the game, I'd say na konting konti lang yung mga BBBJ na naenjoy ko. Mabibilang ko sa isang kamay ko ang naenjoy ko "to completion" ang BJ.

Ang payo ko is kung nasa hobby ka pa, hanap ka ng magaling sa HJ/linggam, tapos masipag sa pag romansa/pag dila sa nipples, leeg, tainga at balls mo.

That way safer ka from STDs. Just be sure na her bodily fluids dont come into contact with any open wound or mucous membranes.

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Probability of catching an STI/STD with an infected person in oral sex scenario

 

Chlamydia

Penis to mouth - The chance of getting oral chlamydia after contacting with infected penis is from 2.6% to 3.7%
Mouth to penis - The chance of passing chlamydia from infected throat to penis is from 5.6%-15.6%
Vagina to mouth - The chance of getting oral chlamydia after contact with infected vagina is from 0% to 5%.
Mouth to vagina - The chance of passing chlamydia from infected throat to vagina can be as high as 40%
Anus to mouth - The chance of getting oral chlamydia after contacting with infected anus is from 2.6% to 3.6%
Mouth to anus - The chance of passing chlamydia from infected throat to the rectum is from 13.1% to 32.5%


Gonorrhea

Penis to mouth - Chance of transmission from penis to oral area: 2.3%
Mouth to penis - Chance of transmission from throat to penis: 23% to 42.3%
Vagina to mouth - Chance of transmission from vagina to throat: 0% to 5%
Mouth to vagina - Chance of transmission from throat to vagina: as high as 40%
Anus to mouth - Chance of transmission from anus to throat: 3.8%
Mouth to Anus - Chance of transmission from throat to rectum: 42.3%
DFK - The chance of getting oral gonorrhea after contacting with infected throat (deep kissing) is 23.2%

 

HIV

Getting HIV through oral sex is very unlikely. The chance is close to zero, whether you're giving or receiving oral sex. This is because mouth tissues rarely develop microscopic abrasions during sex, even if blood or sperm enters the mouth. However, it is difficult to scientifically determine the risk of oral sex alone because people having oral sex usually also have other types of sex (vaginal or anal) during the same sexual episode.

Giving oral sex is a bit riskier
The risk of getting oral HIV is slightly higher if you are giving oral sex (your mouth is on your partner's genitals) than if you are receiving it (your partner's mouth is on your genitals). The reason for this is that you may have microscopic abrasions in your mouth that you're not aware of and your mouth and throat can come into contact with infected bodily fluids.

 

Herpes

Protected oral sex with Asymptomatic person - 5.15% chance of getting infected
Protected oral sex with Symptomatic person - 10.05% chance of getting infected
Unprotected oral sex with Asymptomatic person - 10.20% chance of getting infected
Unprotected oral sex with Symptomatic person - 20.10 chance of getting infected

 

Source: NYC STD Center

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On 1/4/2024 at 10:37 AM, Marty111 said:

Nakakacurious naman kung sino ito... napreserve kaya ang usapang iyon somewhere sa forums ng MTC? Malamang hindi, pero for sure interesting read sana yun.

A few years ago there was a guest na may test result ng sarili to show and to convince any thera of his choice for live and offered 10k pesos. He was known to most theras at doon lang siya kumukuha sa mga sister spas. This is a case marahil na yung guest doesn't care of the status of the thera na napili niya as long as he knew he was clean.

Ewan kung magtaka kayo na minsan yung mismong manager ng spa will notify the chosen thera na pumipili si guest ng pwedeng ilive. And sometimes theras give way knowing si guest ay regular or known sa spa.

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3 hours ago, plug said:

A few years ago there was a guest na may test result ng sarili to show and to convince any thera of his choice for live and offered 10k pesos. He was known to most theras at doon lang siya kumukuha sa mga sister spas. This is a case marahil na yung guest doesn't care of the status of the thera na napili niya as long as he knew he was clean.

Ewan kung magtaka kayo na minsan yung mismong manager ng spa will notify the chosen thera na pumipili si guest ng pwedeng ilive. And sometimes theras give way knowing si guest ay regular or known sa spa.

very risky pa din nung ganung practice sir. considering na iba ibang test ang required para sa ibat ibang klase ng sakit. iba iba din ang test para sa mouth, anus at genital. then may time frame pa bago maging detectable ang sakit o virus sa katawan. chances are kahit clean siya posible siyang makakuha ng sakit mula sa isang babae at makahawa ng iba pa. unless mahaba ang agwat ng panahon sa pagitan ng pag pag avail niya ng mga babae.

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3 hours ago, courtesanhunter said:

very risky pa din nung ganung practice sir. considering na iba ibang test ang required para sa ibat ibang klase ng sakit. iba iba din ang test para sa mouth, anus at genital. then may time frame pa bago maging detectable ang sakit o virus sa katawan. chances are kahit clean siya posible siyang makakuha ng sakit mula sa isang babae at makahawa ng iba pa. unless mahaba ang agwat ng panahon sa pagitan ng pag pag avail niya ng mga babae.

Well said! A lot of people neglect this fact on window period and think a single test would suffice for the myriad of possible std's you can catch.

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8 hours ago, ray321 said:

Any list ng mga spas and therapists na dapat iwasan? Kung may alam kayo pa reply para mag dm ako sa inyo. Thank you 

Imo if you're like me and still can't let go of this hobby.. I would suggest just always using protection.. whether it's vaginal/anal/oral sex.. Avoid dfk as well.

You can't really single out a single spa/group as something like this can easily spread especially with the tendency of us gm's to try out different spas.. also, usually most women don't have obvious symptoms..

I think if everyone gave their list of where they got hit you'd probably just avoid all the spas.

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On 1/16/2024 at 8:47 PM, vanderboy said:

Imo if you're like me and still can't let go of this hobby.. I would suggest just always using protection.. whether it's vaginal/anal/oral sex.. Avoid dfk as well.

You can't really single out a single spa/group as something like this can easily spread especially with the tendency of us gm's to try out different spas.. also, usually most women don't have obvious symptoms..

I think if everyone gave their list of where they got hit you'd probably just avoid all the spas.

I seldom visit a spa, The last time was 2018 pa. I’m kinda curious kase I’m planning to have my vacation sa last quarter of this year and I’m looking for prospect spas na safe. 
safety first dapat. Never do it without protection.

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11 hours ago, ray321 said:

I seldom visit a spa, The last time was 2018 pa. I’m kinda curious kase I’m planning to have my vacation sa last quarter of this year and I’m looking for prospect spas na safe. 
safety first dapat. Never do it without protection.

I think there's no such thing as "spas na safe". All spas with theras that engage in sexual activity are susceptible to STD/STI.

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