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#41 Bookcake

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 04:13 PM

 

Assuming na tama ka, na siya ay adik at runner ng droga. Tama ba na patayin siya ng mga Pulis? Kailan pa sila naging judges sa bansa natin? Di ba you are innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt? Ang korte natin ang may karapatan magpataw ng parusa sa mga kriminal. Hindi ang pulis. Ang mga pulis ay tagapag-patupad lang ng batas. Oo may karapatan silang gumamit ng dahas. Kung sa kanilang tingin ay nanganganib ang buhay nila. 

 

Nanganganib ba ang buhay ng 2 pulis nang binuhat nila si kian (diumano) papunta sa lugar kung saan siya namatay?

Kung nanlaban si kian, paano nila ipapaliwanag ang itsura ni kian na nakaluhod sa lupa at nakalugmok ang mukha sa putik. Kung nanlaban siya dpat naman siguro hindi siya nakaluhod. Kung nanlaban siya. mababa ang chance na sa ulo siya tatamaan ng bala. Center mass gaya nga ng sabi nila.

 

Wag naman sana bigyan ng kulay ang sitwasyon. Ang problema kasi kinukulayan agad ng iba ang pangyayari. Hindi tinitignan kung ano ba talaga ang pagkakamali sa proseso. Sige mag oplan galugad kayo. sige manghuli kayo ng adik. pero hayaan ninyo ang husgado ang magpataw ng parusa. kung dumadami na sila sa selda, ipatupad ang death penalty. ibigay na natin kay digong ang karapatan na pumatay ng mga totoong may sala sa batas. para makakasigurado tayo na idinaan na natin sa tamang proseso at talagang napatunayan na nagkamali ang isang tao. 

 

 

Nako, magagalit ang mga sumasalampalataya kay digong sa sinabi mo. Tama ka rin naman. baka ang drug war na nangyayari eh turf war na pala on a national scale. nagkataon lang na may posisyon sa gobyerno ang puno ng sindikato.. hay nako. nasan na ba si cardo dalisay kapag kailangan mo... 

 

 

Eh di magalit na, hindi naman dinidiyos ang presidente (I voted for Miriam nga pala) On a bigger scale, there's a story yet to unravel. 

 

P.S. Ayos yang username mo.. Pm mo ko ahahahah 


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 05:03 PM

Willing? I said unfortunate casualty not willingly or wanna be a victim, there's a difference... in other terms minalas...

 

 

 

 

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so you are saying that you, or any of your loved ones, is a willing victim of this kind of killing? 



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Posted 25 August 2017 - 08:26 PM

Ayaw na post nung picture, sa fb may nag papatunaynna adik yung kian na yun

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 09:32 PM

ikaw ba ano paniwala mo adik na sya oh hindi ako paniwala ko pusher sya di nagremit kaya napatay.

 

Para sakin eh adik at Pusher yun... 



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Posted 26 August 2017 - 04:35 AM

Ayaw na post nung picture, sa fb may nag papatunaynna adik yung kian na yun


Hindi main issue kung addict o pusher si kian, ang main issue is ejk. Anong karapatan ng pulis patayin yun tao kahit sabihin na user o pusher yan kung hindi nanlaban?

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 08:15 AM

Hindi main issue kung addict o pusher si kian, ang main issue is ejk. Anong karapatan ng pulis patayin yun tao kahit sabihin na user o pusher yan kung hindi nanlaban?

 

Yes tama ka EJK ang nangyari.  If Kian is already 18 y/o hindi ito magiging big issue since marami na talagang na EJK na nangyari na hindi naman ito pinansin ng mga politoko.



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Posted 26 August 2017 - 03:51 PM

Yes tama ka EJK ang nangyari.  If Kian is already 18 y/o hindi ito magiging big issue since marami na talagang na EJK na nangyari na hindi naman ito pinansin ng mga politoko.


Whether he is above or below 18 as well as kung totoong addict o pusher is not material, kundi yun ejk. Regardless of age whether he is a minor or not walang karapatan ang kapulisan na magsagawa ng ejk.

As to sinakyan ba ito o hindi ng politiko, again it doesn't change the fact na walang karapatan ang pulis mag ejk. Ang difference lang since sinakyan then mahirap pagtakpan ng kapulisan yun ginawa nila.

Parang si bato kay yabang sabi ba naman he'd rather napatay kian kaysa malagay sa alanganin pulis niya. Ayun dun sa senado di nagkakalayo ang resulta ng dalawang autopsy ...isa ng pao isa ng pnp ata. Sinasabi na most likely position nun bata ay nakaluhod na nakatalikod. So when asked for comment on what he thinks walang nasabi si Bato kundi sangayunan na kung ganun nga ang sitwasyon eh murder yun.

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 08:00 PM

di naman nakikita sa cctv ejk binitbit lang sya. Eh kung nakaagaw sya ng baril dun na sya nakibarilan a good lawyer can prove also the innocence of the cops.

Well ayon sa senate hearing tinanong ang mga pulis kung ano ba talaga ang nangyari ...ito ang nakapagtataka, kung nakipagagawan ng baril yan eh di sana sinabi ng pulis na ganoon nga nangyari but hindi nila magawa.

Tinanong din sila kung may baril ba si kian, di rin nila masagot ng simpleng OO o Meron. Ang istorya nila di nila masigurado kung may baril basta nagpaputok kaya pinaputukan nila. Now common sense, kung pinaputukan sila base sa salaysay it is safe to assume and claim may baril yun bata pero di sila makapagbigay ng definite answer.

Eto pa nakitaan nakahandusay yun bangkay nun bata na may hawak na baril sa kaliwang kamay pero kanan po ang dominant hand nun bata. Ayon sa tatay naka boxers short lang daw si Kian paano nun maitatago yun baril sa boxers? Di kaya malaglag yun? Alangan naman naglalakad siyang hawak hawak lang yun baril.

Finally sige sakyan natin istorya mo na nangagaw ng baril at nagpaputok si kian, bakit lumabas sa imbestigasyon negative sa gun powder? Ibig sabihin di nagpaputok. Now batay sa autopsy yun tama ay nagpapatunay na nakaluhod at sa likod binaril. Si Bato na mismo nagsabi pag ganun ang sitwasyon murder nga yun. So ano pang palusot

Edited by rooster69ph, 26 August 2017 - 08:03 PM.


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Posted 26 August 2017 - 11:38 PM

im gonna always play the devils advocate. Demokrasya ito lahat ng anggulo pag usapan yun lang masasabi ko. Thanks for the detailed explanation.
thank you sa detalye long way to go payan basta ako gusto ko makita closure ng adik na ito.

 

Same as you dude



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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:22 PM

the "INTELLIGENCE" gathering of our cops

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:29 PM

^Mukha namang effective ang gathering nila sa social media.  :rolleyes: 



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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:42 PM

FDL, that's unfair. Di naman ganyan ka babaw ang PNP natin. 

 

Media propaganda are hyping up the seemingly "hilarious" intelligence gathering through social media. Marami din namang nakiki-sakay. But many have no grasp of how significant social media can be in intelligence data gathering.

 

Even the US National Security Agency uses social media, e-mails, and personal calls as its main source of intelligence data. 


Edited by camiar, 27 August 2017 - 08:45 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:51 PM

FDL, that's unfair. Di naman ganyan ka babaw ang PNP natin. 

 

Media propaganda are hyping up the seemingly "hilarious" intelligence gathering through social media. Marami din namang nakiki-sakay. But many have no grasp of how significant social media can be in intelligence data gathering.

 

Even the US National Security Agency uses social media, e-mails, and personal calls as its main source of intelligence data. 

 

Chill out, camiar.

 

You do not need to react what I've said. 



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Posted 28 August 2017 - 01:17 AM

 

Chill out, camiar.

 

You do not need to react what I've said. 

 OK. I should have directed it to Jopoc.

 

The PNP under Gen. Bato Dela Rosa has been effective in running after criminals, compared to the past government and PNP leaderships. The PNP now has huge windfall of intelligence data that they gathered from hundreds of thousands of drug users and peddlers through Tokhang operations. That, combined with crowd sourced info from social media, is very effective intelligence data gathering.  I think it's unfair to put them in a bad light based on yellow media propaganda and misinformation.



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Posted 28 August 2017 - 02:16 AM

The problem so it seems is not info gathering using social media per se ...

Based on the senate hearing it seems that the cops used social media as their source to supposedly determine that kian was into drugs but never validated it before it acted. Lumalabas after na nun pangyayari saka sila naghanap o nakahanap ng taong magpapatunay na sangkot sa droga si Kian (assuming totoo nga at hindi na naman moro-moro para malusutan yun kapalpakan). Yun ang problema at wag sabihin na yellow propaganda o miainformation campaign na naman ito tulad na lang ng ginagawa ngayon na pilit ipalabas na "legit" ang nangyari.

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 05:46 AM

The problem so it seems is not info gathering using social media per se ...

Based on the senate hearing it seems that the cops used social media as their source to supposedly determine that kian was into drugs but never validated it before it acted. Lumalabas after na nun pangyayari saka sila naghanap o nakahanap ng taong magpapatunay na sangkot sa droga si Kian (assuming totoo nga at hindi na naman moro-moro para malusutan yun kapalpakan). Yun ang problema at wag sabihin na yellow propaganda o miainformation campaign na naman ito tulad na lang ng ginagawa ngayon na pilit ipalabas na "legit" ang nangyari.

 

yup... especially when the police admitted that they checked "kian's background" through social media after he was killed.... great job. 

 

 

 

 

 

FDL, that's unfair. Di naman ganyan ka babaw ang PNP natin. 

 

Media propaganda are hyping up the seemingly "hilarious" intelligence gathering through social media. Marami din namang nakiki-sakay. But many have no grasp of how significant social media can be in intelligence data gathering.

 

Even the US National Security Agency uses social media, e-mails, and personal calls as its main source of intelligence data. 

 

to say it is overhyped is makes it unfair to kian.... one death is too much.... every life matters. 

remember when someone was choked down by the cops in US (NY i think) and lebron wore the "i can't breathe" shirt after the outrage? lebron was showing support to this kid.... you think it was overhyped? 

 

there is no problem using social media for intelligence gathering... but do not limit the intelligence gathering there..... with the likes of mocha around, social media is not the best place to gather date......  and please, wag naman after patayin yung tao mag-intelligence gathering,

 

 

 

 

 OK. I should have directed it to Jopoc.

 

The PNP under Gen. Bato Dela Rosa has been effective in running after criminals, compared to the past government and PNP leaderships. The PNP now has huge windfall of intelligence data that they gathered from hundreds of thousands of drug users and peddlers through Tokhang operations. That, combined with crowd sourced info from social media, is very effective intelligence data gathering.  I think it's unfair to put them in a bad light based on yellow media propaganda and misinformation.

 

let me guess where they got the info... from the drop box in the barangay? from the "list" given by the barangay chairman? from tsismis gathered???/ 

i will not call them criminals yet until proven guilty..... 

 

i am with you in asking the PNP to chase down criminals.... but do it the right way.... apprehend on those with strong evidence.... tokhang is not the way.... it is inhumane.... you cannot catch criminals through trial and error..... and you cannot catch them by threatening them of surrender or die..... if a cop knocks on my door and tells me to surrender for any crime or else i will die.... i will surrender even if i am not guilty........

 

 

in a way, the new criminals now are the cops. 



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Posted 28 August 2017 - 06:14 AM

yup... especially when the police admitted that they checked "kian's background" through social media after he was killed.... great job. 
 
there is no problem using social media for intelligence gathering... but do not limit the intelligence gathering there..... with the likes of mocha around, social media is not the best place to gather date......  and please, wag naman after patayin yung tao mag-intelligence gathering,
 
let me guess where they got the info... from the drop box in the barangay? from the "list" given by the barangay chairman? from tsismis gathered???


yun pagamin na sa social media ang ginamit for intelligence gathering and after patayin saka nag intelligence gathering ...lahat ito available un info sa media na yun senate hearing ang source. And yet idiotertards somehow turn a blind eye on this at sa dilawan na naman isisisi na keyso propaganda o fake news daw ito. Duh! Kung magpapalusot kung kapanipaniwala naman gasgas na masyado ang pinakaconvenient na alibi which is ituro sa dilawan. Naubusan na siguro ng palusot???

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 08:31 AM

yun pagamin na sa social media ang ginamit for intelligence gathering and after patayin saka nag intelligence gathering ...lahat ito available un info sa media na yun senate hearing ang source. And yet idiotertards somehow turn a blind eye on this at sa dilawan na naman isisisi na keyso propaganda o fake news daw ito. Duh! Kung magpapalusot kung kapanipaniwala naman gasgas na masyado ang pinakaconvenient na alibi which is ituro sa dilawan. Naubusan na siguro ng palusot???

 

 

what worries me is that some would even call this as "blown out of proportion" or "overhyped"

killing of an innocent person is just plain appalling..... one life is too important and there is no overhype to it.....

 

kung sa inyo mangyari yan??? 



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Posted 28 August 2017 - 11:41 AM

Hindi nga kasi inocente yung Kian na yun kahit sabihn pa pa na ginamit nila yung social media, dahil isa lang yung tool at meron din naman iba ang intelligence report..

kaya buti nga namatay yun, tapos gagawin pang santo, le3che naman

 

https://www.youtube....MeGGZGpg&t=149s



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Posted 28 August 2017 - 02:03 PM

what worries me is that some would even call this as "blown out of proportion" or "overhyped"
killing of an innocent person is just plain appalling..... one life is too important and there is no overhype to it.....
 
kung sa inyo mangyari yan???

If idiotertards says its being blown out of proportion or its overhyped it simply means one thing ... Tantanan na ninyo kasi nadidiin na ng husto si lord digong. Baka tuluyang masira ang imahe.

Human nature na maging protective sa kapamilya o kamaganak. kaya feeling ko ka-plastikan lang yun pagsangayon kung may nangyaring di maganda sa iba pero pag sa kanila na tingnan lang natin.

Ilan na ba dito ang sangayon sa madugong laban kontra droga ang nagsabing may kamaganak silang addict? Bakit hindi nila mismo ito isuplong at ipapatay nang mabawasan ng isang salot sa lipunan. Only then saka ako maniniwala na sincere talaga sila sa kanilang paniniwala at sinasabi. Madali naman kasi magsalita kapag hindi ka apektado.

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