LA Lakers

[will robie]

 

Barring injury LAC is the clear favorite to win a championship. Not only are they an offensive monster, they are also the best defensive team in the NBA.

 

I have to disagree that signing Danny Green was a knee-jerk reaction. It was already common knowledge that the Lakers, Mavs and other NBA teams wanted to sign him weeks ago but Danny Green really wanted to sign with Lakers so he waited for Kawhi to make a decision. 15M 2yrs sounds big but Danny Green is a 45% 3pt shooter, an elite defender and a 2-time NBA Champion. No freakin way he'll sign another 10M dollar contract. I am not a Pelinka fan but in my opinion he did a decent job this off-season. Signing DMC for 3.5M is a steal IMHO. I'm hoping we can get Korver and perhaps Avery Bradley for Vet minimum.

DC wasn't really a factor in the just-concluded championship series. $3.5MM a season is reasonable for DC. I am not saying the Lakers should have signed Green for $15MM a season. I'd say $12MM max for Danny Green per season but $15MM is too much, in my opinion. The Lakers have a pretty decent projected starting five on paper but it remains to be seen how it will translate on court. Remember the much-ballyhooed Nash, Gasol, Howard and Bryant foursome?

[red60]

DC wasn't really a factor in the just-concluded championship series. $3.5MM a season is reasonable for DC. I am not saying the Lakers should have signed Green for $15MM a season. I'd say $12MM max for Danny Green per season but $15MM is too much, in my opinion. The Lakers have a pretty decent projected starting five on paper but it remains to be seen how it will translate on court. Remember the much-ballyhooed Nash, Gasol, Howard and Bryant foursome?

 

While I agree that DMC didnt play well in the NBA finals except for game 2, You are underestimating Cousins. He averaged 16PPG 8RPG 3AST last season with the stacked GSW. If he can stay healthy he'll be a wild card and a game changer for the Lakers. At 3.5M, I can consider him minimal risk acquisition. You could be right about Danny green being slightly overpaid but the extra 3M won't cripple the Lakers. It's a 2 year deal not really long term. There were a lot of bad long-term contracts signed this week and slightly overpaying Green is microscopic in comparison.

 

"Remember the much-ballyhooed Nash, Gasol, Howard and Bryant foursome?"

I can't see any similarities. Bryant and Howard clashed since Day 1 and I always said that getting Howard was a terrible idea. Nash was already old and injury prone. It was really bad chemistry all around. I have no doubt AD and James will get along. Rondo and DMC played with AD and they were able to reach the 2nd round. Even if DMC doesnt pan out Lakers just paid him only 3.5M anyway.

 

At the end of the day we just have to wait and see what happens. Lakers have the necessary pieces and I think the coaching staff will need to work extra hard to be a championship contender.

Edited July 7, 2019 by red60

[Vegasboy32]

 

Barring injury LAC is the clear favorite to win a championship. Not only are they an offensive monster, they are also the best defensive team in the NBA.

 

I have to disagree that signing Danny Green was a knee-jerk reaction. It was already common knowledge that the Lakers, Mavs and other NBA teams wanted to sign him weeks ago but Danny Green really wanted to sign with Lakers so he waited for Kawhi to make a decision. 15M 2yrs sounds big but Danny Green is a 45% 3pt shooter, an elite defender and a 2-time NBA Champion. No freakin way he'll sign another 10M dollar contract. I am not a Pelinka fan but in my opinion he did a decent job this off-season. Signing DMC for 3.5M is a steal IMHO. I'm hoping we can get Korver and perhaps Avery Bradley for Vet minimum.

 

Possible starting 5 for LAC

PG - Berverly

SG - Shamet

SF - Leonard

PF - George

C - harrell

 

6th man lou williams

mo harkless

Ivica Zubac

Wilson Chandler

 

Lakers

PG - Rondo

SG - Green

SF - James

PF - Davis

C - Cousins

 

6th man Kuzma

Javale Mcgee

Caldwell-Pope

Alex Caruso

 

who do you think has the much deeper bench. Just saying. The clippers were a better team before this is a new season.

[Vegasboy32]

DC wasn't really a factor in the just-concluded championship series. $3.5MM a season is reasonable for DC. I am not saying the Lakers should have signed Green for $15MM a season. I'd say $12MM max for Danny Green per season but $15MM is too much, in my opinion. The Lakers have a pretty decent projected starting five on paper but it remains to be seen how it will translate on court. Remember the much-ballyhooed Nash, Gasol, Howard and Bryant foursome?

 

Let me ask you this question. Has the clippers won anything. CP3 just wasted his career playing for them. So is Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. What do you expect from a team that not won any championships at all. Since you brought up Gasol, Howard and Bryant plus Nash. The clippers also have CP3, Griffin, Jordan, and Redick. What did they accomplish? Did they bring any championships. That foursome did not last long. While they Clippers foursome stayed together for a couple of years winning nothing. Just saying.

[will robie]

 

While I agree that DMC didnt play well in the NBA finals except for game 2, You are underestimating Cousins. He averaged 16PPG 8RPG 3AST last season with the stacked GSW. If he can stay healthy he'll be a wild card and a game changer for the Lakers. At 3.5M, I can consider him minimal risk acquisition. You could be right about Danny green being slightly overpaid but the extra 3M won't cripple the Lakers. It's a 2 year deal not really long term. There were a lot of bad long-term contracts signed this week and slightly overpaying Green is microscopic in comparison.

Perhaps, but his two injuries last year have slowed him down. He is serviceable but not the Cousins of the Sacramento Kings. He could be a game changer for the Lakers but it could also go the other way.

I can't see any similarities. Bryant and Howard clashed since Day 1 and I always said that getting Howard was a terrible idea. Nash was already old and injury prone. It was really bad chemistry all around. I have no doubt AD and James will get along. Rondo and DMC played with AD and they were able to reach the 2nd round. Even if DMC doesnt pan out Lakers just paid him only 3.5M anyway.

Yes, you are right. But the pundits that time already were crowning the Lakers champions when they haven't played a game yet.

 

 

At the end of the day we just have to wait and see what happens. Lakers have the necessary pieces and I think the coaching staff will need to work extra hard to be a championship contender.

Exactly

Edited July 7, 2019 by will robie

[will robie]

 

Let me ask you this question. Has the clippers won anything. CP3 just wasted his career playing for them. So is Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. What do you expect from a team that not won any championships at all. Since you brought up Gasol, Howard and Bryant plus Nash. The clippers also have CP3, Griffin, Jordan, and Redick. What did they accomplish? Did they bring any championships. That foursome did not last long. While they Clippers foursome stayed together for a couple of years winning nothing. Just saying.

Are CP3, Griffin and Jordan franchise players? PG was an MVP candidate last season. When Kawhi left the Spurs, he was already its best player and it can be argued that the Ws lose the 2017 WCF had Kawhi played and not gotten injured because of Zaza Pacheapshot. He was also the best player of the Raptors when the Raptors won the championship. Both PG and Kawhi are franchise players.

[red60]

Perhaps, but his two injuries last year have slowed him down. He is serviceable but not the Cousins of the Sacramento Kings. He could be a game changer for the Lakers but it could also go the other way.

 

Yes, you are right. But the pundits that time already were crowning the Lakers champions when they haven't played a game yet.

 

Exactly

 

DMC doesn't need to be anywhere near his Sacramento days to be effective in this Laker team. If he can score 8-10 PPG at high percentage and grab 6-8 RPG, I'm sure Lakers are already happy. Anything more than that is a bonus.

 

Well I don't know who are the pundits you are referring to but the media and former players are saying if they get kawhi then it's almost 100% certain Lakers will win the championship. I can't recall any notable name who said that the Lakers are runaway winners with just Lebron and AD.

[red60]

 

Possible starting 5 for LAC

PG - Berverly

SG - Shamet

SF - Leonard

PF - George

C - harrell

 

6th man lou williams

mo harkless

Ivica Zubac

Wilson Chandler

 

Lakers

PG - Rondo

SG - Green

SF - James

PF - Davis

C - Cousins

 

6th man Kuzma

Javale Mcgee

Caldwell-Pope

Alex Caruso

 

who do you think has the much deeper bench. Just saying. The clippers were a better team before this is a new season.

 

 

On paper and based from last season's performance, LAC has a slight edge IMHO.

[will robie]

 

DMC doesn't need to be anywhere near his Sacramento days to be effective in this Laker team. If he can score 8-10 PPG at high percentage and grab 6-8 RPG, I'm sure Lakers are already happy. Anything more than that is a bonus.

 

Well I don't know who are the pundits you are referring to but the media and former players are saying if they get kawhi then it's almost 100% certain Lakers will win the championship. I can't recall any notable name who said that the Lakers are runaway winners with just Lebron and AD.

Cousins was recruited because AD loved playing with him in NOLA. I think Cousins' best days are behind him due to multiple injuries.

 

I mean the pundits who predicted an LA championship when the Lakers traded for Howard and added Nash.

 

In my opinion, the road to the championship will go through LA. LAC not LAL.

Edited July 8, 2019 by will robie

[*kalel*]

The lakeshow w lbj, ad and boogie i think has the best frontline in the nba... backcourt belongs to the warriors...

 

Clippers might be good but after pg13 and kawhi, the bench is thin...nets, same thing...

 

Mas manginginig pa ang lakers sa celtics...

[red60]

On the last sentence of your comment, don't ever tell to him "we can".. Because stating "we" on your qoute on his comment is recognizing and including him as a fan also of Lakers. He's not a Laker fan and he's an LBJ hater also always calling him Lechoke (and I know why). A die hard Boston Celtics fan.

 

On topic;

Paano kaya si Carmelo Anthony? Baka pwede iconsider ng team management na kunin siya. Just saying.

 

I know he's a Celtics fan.I remember debating with him last year. hahaha

 

Carmelo Anthony? Malabo na. With recent signings of Green, Dudley, Cook, Daniels, Caruso parang wala na siyang place sa roster. Avery Bradley, a known defensive specialist, is reportedly going to sign with the Lakers for 2 years. Pagasa ni Carmelo if he can convince Lebron but I doubt he will get playing time. I'll give the playing time to the rookie instead of Carmelo.

Edited July 9, 2019 by red60

[red60]

Clippers might be good but after pg13 and kawhi, the bench is thin...nets, same thing...

 

Looks like you don't know the details of the trade. It's PG for Alexander, Gallinari, and draft picks. Kawhi and PG will replace the starting position of Alexander and Gallinari so how does that affect the bench depth of the Clippers? They still have Lou Williams (6th man of the year), Harrell (nominee for 6th man of the year), Shamet, McGruder, Harkless coming off the bench. This is one of the best bench unit in the NBA right now.

Edited July 9, 2019 by red60

[red60]

Cousins was recruited because AD loved playing with him in NOLA. I think Cousins' best days are behind him due to multiple injuries.

 

I mean the pundits who predicted an LA championship when the Lakers traded for Howard and added Nash.

 

In my opinion, the road to the championship will go through LA. LAC not LAL.

 

It was actually AD who recruited Cousins daw. They had a good run with Rondo so don't underestimate Cousins. He might surprise you next season.

 

Well you're not alone. LAC is the favorite to win the chip right now.

[dencio]

IMO, recent acquisitions of Cousins and Bradley by the Lakers give them a slight edge over the Clips, talent-wise. What tips the favor to the Clips, though, is better coaching, defense, continuity/chemistry from the supporting cast, and overall organizational support. Still early in the offseason and I see both teams tweaking their teams, possibly even upto the trade deadline. A lot of chatter on Iguodala joining either team but I'm not so sure of his fit to both teams as they are already stacked at the wings. The Lakers addressed their guard depth with Bradley while the Clips look to be missing another serviceable big.

 

For the season, I think both teams will load manage their superstars and will most likely cede the no. 1 seed to either the Nuggets or Jazz - both of whom can give both LA teams a run for their money. The West is better than ever with the Blazers, Spurs, Rockets and the decimated but proud Warriors also in the playoff mix. The young guns in the Pelicans, Mavericks and Kings may provide some challenge but are a season or two away. The Grizz and Thunder are rebuilding, The Wolves are in purgatory and the Suns are in ... nevermind.

 

Don't have any fearless forecasts yet but very excited for the upcoming season.

[vienvenido]

Si Iggy may team na ba... sana lakers din .hahaha.

[red60]

Si Iggy may team na ba... sana lakers din .hahaha.

 

Iggy is still with the Grizzlies. He'll likely be traded and not waived contrary to what was reported earlier.

[red60]

IMO, recent acquisitions of Cousins and Bradley by the Lakers give them a slight edge over the Clips, talent-wise. What tips the favor to the Clips, though, is better coaching, defense, continuity/chemistry from the supporting cast, and overall organizational support. Still early in the offseason and I see both teams tweaking their teams, possibly even upto the trade deadline. A lot of chatter on Iguodala joining either team but I'm not so sure of his fit to both teams as they are already stacked at the wings. The Lakers addressed their guard depth with Bradley while the Clips look to be missing another serviceable big.

 

 

Too early to say if Cousins and Bradley will have a huge impact but like what I said earlier 3.5M and 4M respectively is low risk and potentially high return contracts. Lakers need Iguodala more. Turns out Lakers are now stacked with guards and shooters. Lakers could use 1 more forward that can play defense. I think the only backup for Davis is Jared Dudley. According to reports Lebron James will play point guard ala Ben Simmons so the starting 5 will probably be like:

 

C Mcgee or Cousins

F Davis

F Kuzma

G Green

G Lebron James

Edited July 9, 2019 by red60

[*kalel*]

Looks like you don't know the details of the trade. It's PG for Alexander, Gallinari, and draft picks. Kawhi and PG will replace the starting position of Alexander and Gallinari so how does that affect the bench depth of the Clippers? They still have Lou Williams (6th man of the year), Harrell (nominee for 6th man of the year), Shamet, McGruder, Harkless coming off the bench. This is one of the best bench unit in the NBA right now.

 

I understood the line up, and that same back up line up crumbled under pressure...

[red60]

I understood the line up, and that same back up line up crumbled under pressure...

 

Clippers bench crumbled under pressure? Did you even watch the Clippers vs GSW series? Have you ever watched a Clipper game this year?

 

The clippers entered the playoff 8th Seed without a single all-star player in their team and facing top seed Golden State Warrior with Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, Curry, Iguodala in the line up. Majority of analysts were saying that GSW will sweep the clippers but they managed to push the warriors to 6 games under the brilliant play of their bench. Lou Williams and Harrell stepped up ano pinagsasabi mong "crumbled under pressure". Clippers bench has been the X-factor the entire year. Clippers is known to have the best bench in the NBA averaging 52.7PPG at 48% FG shooting. More importantly they were able to somehow to keep all the important bench players this coming season. If you do not watch the Clippers game stop making nonsense comments and belittling Clippers bench. Stop doing drugs!

[will robie]

 

It was actually AD who recruited Cousins daw. They had a good run with Rondo so don't underestimate Cousins. He might surprise you next season.

 

Well you're not alone. LAC is the favorite to win the chip right now.

Yup, that's what I said. Well, we are not the only ones who believe that LAC is the favorite in the West now. Paul Pierce and Chauncey Billups think so too.

 

Edited July 9, 2019 by will robie

[Shaitan]

Lac? Di nga makaalis ng first round yan sa west. Kahit yung lob city pa team nila. Parehas pa may history ng leg injury si PG at KL. Instant contender agad? Doc rivers nabuhat lang nila garnet, rondo, pierce at allen. At tinalo din ng isang superstar na si kobe next nila magkita.

 

Lagpas muna first round ang aim ng Lac bago championship contender. Hehehe! Parang boston kang din nung iniured si kyrie at gordon, malaya ang offense at defense. Masmalakas pa okc westbrook and adams and pg.

 

Epic comeback ng lakers puro vets at mga nakatikik na ng championship ung iba. Avery and green palang sarap na sa defense. Sama pa si KCP. Kaso tamad mag defense si lebron hehe. Injury lang kalaban nglakers at marami history si AD. Hhaha para sya balikbayan box fragile handle with care. Si kuzma susi ng lakers

[red60]

Lac? Di nga makaalis ng first round yan sa west. Kahit yung lob city pa team nila. Parehas pa may history ng leg injury si PG at KL. Instant contender agad? Doc rivers nabuhat lang nila garnet, rondo, pierce at allen. At tinalo din ng isang superstar na si kobe next nila magkita.

 

Lagpas muna first round ang aim ng Lac bago championship contender. Hehehe! Parang boston kang din nung iniured si kyrie at gordon, malaya ang offense at defense. Masmalakas pa okc westbrook and adams and pg.

 

Epic comeback ng lakers puro vets at mga nakatikik na ng championship ung iba. Avery and green palang sarap na sa defense. Sama pa si KCP. Kaso tamad mag defense si lebron hehe. Injury lang kalaban nglakers at marami history si AD. Hhaha para sya balikbayan box fragile handle with care. Si kuzma susi ng lakers

 

Lots of random sh*t going on here umabot pa sa 2010 Boston Celtics at LA Lakers. Just want to point out that Kobe Bryant had plenty of help coming from Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Healthy Andrew Bynum, Ron Artest, Brown, Farmar Lakers team was no doubt a championship caliber and not some scrub team that Kobe Bryant had to carry on his shoulder. On the other hand, Celtics were also a good star-studded team but majority of the key players were already at the tail end of their careers (Ray Allen 34, Pierce 32, Garnett 33, Wallace 35..)

 

Back to 2019, the moment you add finals MVP, Kawhi and 2nd runner-up regular season MVP, Paul George to a playoff team you instantly get a championship contender. Take note that the word "contender" does not guarantee a championship. It only means you have a good chance of winning a championship. Baka nalilito ka, walang nagsasabi dito na siguradong mag-champion ang Clippers. Nililinaw ko lang. With regards to injury, AD and DMC are prone to injury even Lebron James who was known to be durable suffered a groin injury last year so it's not just PG and KL. Lahat ng teams kalaban ang injury. No need to stress this point over and over again, it was already crystal clear in the 2019 NBA finals when KD and Klay went down.

Edited July 11, 2019 by red60

[will robie]

Lac? Di nga makaalis ng first round yan sa west. Kahit yung lob city pa team nila. Parehas pa may history ng leg injury si PG at KL. Instant contender agad? Doc rivers nabuhat lang nila garnet, rondo, pierce at allen. At tinalo din ng isang superstar na si kobe next nila magkita.

 

Lagpas muna first round ang aim ng Lac bago championship contender. Hehehe! Parang boston kang din nung iniured si kyrie at gordon, malaya ang offense at defense. Masmalakas pa okc westbrook and adams and pg.

 

Epic comeback ng lakers puro vets at mga nakatikik na ng championship ung iba. Avery and green palang sarap na sa defense. Sama pa si KCP. Kaso tamad mag defense si lebron hehe. Injury lang kalaban nglakers at marami history si AD. Hhaha para sya balikbayan box fragile handle with care. Si kuzma susi ng lakers

I will indulge you using your logic. If KG, PP and Allen, indeed, carried Doc, then PG and Kawhi could carry Doc. I mean Kawhi just won a championship and PG was an MVP candidate last year. Were CP, Griffin, or Jordan MVP candidates?

 

How could the Clippers even get past the first round when they had no superstar to carry them? In order to win in the NBA, you need talent and superstars have talent. The Clippers weren't even supposed to last 6 games against the mighty Ws, yet, they took them to 6 games. At first glance, the Clippers vs. Warriors face off in the first round reeked of a sweep but the Clippers showed their character. What more if Kawhi and PG are there?

 

You're talking of the Clippers not getting past the first round. The Lakers didn't even make the playoffs for the 6th straight season.

 

Lots of random sh*t going on here umabot pa sa 2010 Boston Celtics at LA Lakers. Just want to point out that Kobe Bryant had plenty of help coming from Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Healthy Andrew Bynum, Ron Artest, Brown, Farmar Lakers team was no doubt a championship caliber and not some scrub team that Kobe Bryant had to carry on his shoulder. On the other hand, Celtics were also a good star-studded team but majority of the key players were already at the tail end of their careers (Ray Allen 34, Pierce 32, Garnett 33, Wallace 35..)

 

Back to 2019, the moment you add finals MVP, Kawhi and 2nd runner-up regular season MVP, Paul George to a playoff team you instantly get a championship contender. Take note that the word "contender" does not guarantee a championship. It only means you have a good chance of winning a championship. Baka nalilito ka, walang nagsasabi dito na siguradong mag-champion ang Clippers. Nililinaw ko lang. With regards to injury, AD and DMC are prone to injury even Lebron James who was known to be durable suffered a groin injury last year so it's not just PG and KL. Lahat ng teams kalaban ang injury. No need to stress this point over and over again, it was already crystal clear in the 2019 NBA finals when KD and Klay went down.

You're one of the few sensible Laker fans, padre. As for the others, never mind.

Edited July 11, 2019 by will robie

[Shaitan]

Not a laker fans.

 

Masyado kayo elibs sa clippers paglipat ni kawhi eh at kahit wala si kawhi. Seriously, help kay kobe bryant sinabi mo vs what 3 hall of famers and rondo. Si pau gasol support cast lang. Si lamar odom? Lolz 😂 si artest lang naiba sa lineup na defensive player. Pakipost mga score ng players lakers nun kung meron nga help si kobe.

 

Red and will, wag kayo mawawala sa playoffs ha. Abangan nyo clippers nyo. Hahaha

 

Denver, blazers, warriors, houston, lakers, jazz, spurs, jesus masyado elibs kay kawhi and pg the traitor. Hahaha

[Shaitan]

Will robie, nagiisip ka ba? 30 games wala si lebron last season. Kahit sino wala alam sure yan pasok lakers kung hinde nainjured si queen diva.

 

Masmalakas lob city kesa dun sa clippers last season. First round curse by doc rivers haha