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popular vote is MJ, for me its Kareem, kayo sino sa tingin nyo? lets not limit the discussion to the two guys i mentioned

 

Just some info from Wikipedia...you may add up to back up your entry...

 

Kareem

 

6× NBA champion (1971, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987–1988)

2× NBA Finals MVP (1971, 1985)

6× NBA Most Valuable Player (1971–1972, 1974, 1976–1977, 1980)

19× NBA All-Star (1970–1977, 1979–1989)

10× All-NBA First Team (1971–1974, 1976–1977, 1980–1981, 1984, 1986)

5× All-NBA Second Team (1970, 1978–1979, 1983, 1985)

5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1974–1975, 1979–1981)

6× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1970–1971, 1976–1978, 1984)

NBA Rookie of the Year (1970)

NBA All-Rookie Team (1970)

2× NBA scoring champion (1971–1972)

NBA rebounding champion (1976)

4× NBA blocks leader (1975–1976, 1979–1980)

NBA all-time leading scorer

NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team

No.33 retired by Los Angeles Lakers

No.33 retired by Milwaukee Bucks

3× NCAA champion (1967–1969)

3× NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player (1967–1969)

3× College national player of the year (1967–1969)

No.33 retired by UCLA

Career statistics

Points 38,387 (24.6 ppg)

Rebounds 17,440 (11.2 rpg)

Blocks 3,189 (2.5 bpg)

 

MJ

 

6× NBA champion (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)

6× NBA Finals MVP (1991–1993, 1996–1998)

5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991–1992, 1996, 1998)

14× NBA All-Star (1985–1993, 1996–1998, 2002–2003)

3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998)

NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1988)

NBA Rookie of the Year (1985)

10× NBA scoring champion (1987–1993, 1996–1998)

3× NBA steals champion (1988, 1990, 1993)

10× All-NBA First Team (1987–1993, 1996–1998)

All-NBA Second Team (1985)

9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1988–1993, 1996–1998)

NBA All-Rookie First Team (1985)

2× NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (1987–1988)

NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team

#23 retired by Chicago Bulls and Miami Heat

NCAA champion (1982)

2× Consensus NCAA All-American First Team (1983–1984)

ACC Player of the Year (1984)

Oscar Robertson Trophy (1984)

Naismith College Player of the Year (1984)

John R. Wooden Award (1984)

Adolph Rupp Trophy (1984)

Career statistics

Points 32,292 (30.1 ppg)

Rebounds 6,672 (6.2 rpg)

Assists 5,633 (5.3 apg)

 

Magic

 

5× NBA champion (1980, 1982, 1985, 1987–1988)

3× NBA Finals MVP (1980, 1982, 1987)

3× NBA Most Valuable Player (1987, 1989–1990)

12× NBA All-Star (1980, 1982–1992)

2× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1990, 1992)

9× All-NBA First Team (1983–1991)

All-NBA Second Team (1982)

NBA All-Rookie First Team (1980)

4× NBA assists leader (1983–1984), (1986–1987)

NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team

NCAA Champion (1979)

#32 Retired by Los Angeles Lakers

Career statistics

Points 17,707 (19.5 ppg)

Rebounds 6,559 (7.2 rpg)

Assists 10,141 (11.2 apg)

 

Larry

 

As player:

3× NBA champion (1981, 1984, 1986)

2× NBA Finals MVP (1984, 1986)

3× NBA Most Valuable Player (1984–1986)

12× NBA All-Star (1980–1988, 1990–1992)

9× All-NBA First Team (1980–1988)

All-NBA Second Team (1990)

3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1982–1984)

NBA Rookie of the Year (1980)

NBA All-Rookie First Team (1980)

NBA All-Star Game MVP (1982)

3× Three-point Shootout champion (1986–1988)

NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team

#33 Retired by Boston Celtics

John R. Wooden Award (1979)

Naismith College Player of the Year (1979)

AP National Player of the Year (1979)

Oscar Robertson Trophy (1979)

Adolph Rupp Trophy (1979)

NABC Player of the Year (1979)

2× MVC Player of the Year (1978, 1979)

2× Consensus NCAA All-American First Team (1978, 1979)

As coach:

NBA Coach of the Year (1998)

As executive:

NBA Executive of the Year (2012)

Career statistics

Points 21,791 (24.3 ppg)

Assists 5,695 (6.3 apg)

Rebounds 8,974 (10.0 rpg)

 

Bill Russel

 

11× NBA champion (1957, 1959–1966, 1968–1969)

5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1958, 1961–1963, 1965)

5× NBA rebounding champion (1957–1959, 1964–1965)

12× NBA All-Star (1958–1969)

3× All-NBA First Team (1959, 1963, 1965)

8× All-NBA Second Team (1958, 1960–1962, 1964, 1966–1968)

NBA All-Defensive First Team (1969)

NBA All-Star Game MVP (1963)

NBA 35th Anniversary Team

NBA 25th Anniversary Team

NBA 50th Anniversary Team

#6 retired by Boston Celtics

2× NCAA champion (1955–1956)

NCAA Tournament Most Outstanding Player (1955)

Career statistics

Points 14,522 (15.1 ppg)

Rebounds 21,620 (22.5 rpg)

Assists 4,100 (4.3 apg)

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i think it is quite difficult, if not impossible, to say definitely who is the best player of all time, as they played in different eras; and we have to go beyond individual stats and consider how many championships they won, etc. etc.

 

so maybe its best to think of it in terms of position, i.e. best center, best point guard, etc. of all time.

 

In the modern era, i'd say:

 

Best center - Shaq

Best power forward - Karl Malone

Best small forward - Larry Bird

Best shooting guard - MJ

Best point guard - Magic (he redefined the position). If you want a "pure" point guard, John Stockton.

 

 

Pls. note i didn't include active players like Lebron, Kobe, etc. since their careers aren't over yet.

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siguro po kasi, success is measured by achievement...

what i mean is the ultimate goal to get a ring,

take for example karl malone and tim duncan, most basketball experts consider duncan as the best pf that played the game

the difference between the two? rings.

why is alcindor and russell ranked higher than wilt? rings.

note: in one of wilt's interviews he tells that alcindor was the first player he asked his team that they help him defend.

 

 

 

as for mikhan's case, it was more of a spectacle seeing someone that huge(6'10") and playing the game at that time...

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siguro po kasi, success is measured by achievement...

what i mean is the ultimate goal to get a ring,

take for example karl malone and tim duncan, most basketball experts consider duncan as the best pf that played the game

the difference between the two? rings.

why is alcindor and russell ranked higher than wilt? rings.

note: in one of wilt's interviews he tells that alcindor was the first player he asked his team that they help him defend.

 

 

 

as for mikhan's case, it was more of a spectacle seeing someone that huge(6'10") and playing the game at that time...

 

hmm maybe.. pero comparing THE MAILMAN to MR. Fundamental, parang mas magaling namn tlga c Timmy e, what do u think>?

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hmm maybe.. pero comparing THE MAILMAN to MR. Fundamental, parang mas magaling namn tlga c Timmy e, what do u think>?

naalala ko tuloy yung hall of fame enshrinement ni robinson.... In his speech, he called tim the answer to his prayers and the best pf ..... Nung time ni stockton naman mag speech, he quoted robinson and said, i beg to disagree....

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Picking the greatest basketball player of all time is easy, because the greatest basketball player of all time is Michael Jordan. Its easier in basketball than in other team sports, because the positions arent wildly dissimilar as they are in football and hockey, and you dont have the scepter of the whole while were at it, Babe Ruth was an All-Star-level pitcher, too-argument hanging over the discussion as you do in baseball.

 

For basketball? Its Jordan. Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell put up phenomenal stats in a different era that featured mismatched athletic and skill sets, heightened pace, and 40 percent field goal percentages. On the other side of that historical curve sits LeBron James, who is on pace to exceed Jordans accomplishments and supplant him as the best basketball player ever.

 

I would have to include another one- Larry Bird.. Basketball assassin. The beauty of true power is not using it, but showing flashes of it on command.. just to let everyone know. McHale scored 50+.. Bird topped him the next night. And the reason he didn't do it more often was because he thought of TEAM first.

 

Of the four (4) mentioned above, my personal fave is MJ.

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