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#121 luckystrike



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Posted 26 July 2007 - 06:16 AM

those who invested deserve this. usually those with money ang nag invest dito and most of them are educated or we may say may pinagaralan (sana) but i was wondering sa dinami dami nang naging investment scam dito sa pinas bakit hindi pa sila natuto ?., siguro naman yung perang ininvest nila ay perang pinaghirapan nila so they know how hard it is to earn that kind of money (1.000 dollars) pero bakit naniwala agad sila sa easy money scheme nato? anyways hopefully this is the last scam i will read for a very long time. nakakaawa kasi kapwa pinoy ang nadale and mnga perpators mnga dayuhan pa.

#122 Don Carleone

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 08:40 AM

As the saying goes, if it's too good to be true, it's probably not.

ndi ba dapat, if it's too good to be true, it's probably is (too good to be true)? anyways, may kilala ako kumita dto.. nakuha nya pera nya.. pero one of the early investors cya..

#123 tonysoprano


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Posted 26 July 2007 - 09:10 AM

This is a scam alright... but if you're clever enough, you'll still come out ahead..

I dont know with the others but i personally made over 150,000 dollars in this so called scam..

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 10:18 AM

While the Francswiss scandal may be over, rest assured that it won't be the last. As a financial adviser, I see dozens of these things every year and all I can say is that they ALL rely on two things in order to succeed : ENVY AND GREED.

ENVY : Imagine that you belong to a group of friends. You all have similar jobs, drive similar cars and live similar lifestyles. Then suddenly, you see your next door neighbor, who used to carpool with you, drive by in a shiny new BMW series 7. Then, he invites you over to his house to watch original DVD's on his brand new plasma TV. His kids begin showing your kids their new IPODs and PS-3. Wouldn't you begin to be curious as to how he achieved it? Wouldn't you begin to ask yourself : "If he can get those things, why not me?" After all, deep down, we all feel that we are at least as good as our peers.

GREED : Once you do decide to place your money in these things and the initial returns start rolling in, it becomes very, very difficult to pull out. Take a look at all of these things and they will always encourage to keep your earnings in, if not add more money to your initial placement. Conversely, ask the ones who made money from these things and you will find that they made money because they cashed in early. They didn't let greed rule them and, once they made a nice return, pulled out and never looked back.

That then brings me to my next point : It is very hard to discredit these things simply because, at the end of the day, people do make money. Yes, in a way, those earnings are "stolen" from downlines but that's what makes it so easy to justify : You never see those people. You will never see the hardship they will then have to endure because they lost their money. Plus, you can always say that it's their fault for coming in late. And of course, will anyone truly return the cars / TV's / gadgets they buy with the money they "earn" from these things?

With all of that said, what are some of the easiest signs to check and see if what is being offered to you is a scam or not?

GUARANTEES : In most developed financial markets, it is downright ILLEGAL for a fund manager to guarantee returns for investment products. This is especially true if the investment involves stocks, forex, derivatives, options and HYIP's. Consequently, if an investment "guarantees" a return and they invest in any of the above, then that is one of the biggest red flags there is.

LACK OF TRANSPARENCY : If an investment cannot or will not tell you where your money is going, that is again another major danger sign. Legitimate investments make it a point to tell you where your money will be going so that you can be properly apprised of the risks. (This is how in countries such as the U.S., you can invest in products based on your religious and / or sexual beliefs. Yes, they have investments targeted for Jews, Protestants, Gays and Lesbians.)

UNREALISTIC RETURNS : In simplest terms, anything that offers to double or triple your money in less than a year should be looked at with suspicion. (For reference, most fund managers are considered good if they can achieve double-digit ANNUAL growth.) This becomes even more urgent if the return is "guaranteed". As many posters on this thread have said : "If it's too good to be true, it probably is."

In closing, for the people who made money here -- good for you (And I'm not being sarcastic here.) Just make sure you take care of what you earned.

For those who lost money -- learn from this. Either never go into these things again or make sure you get in earlier.

#125 Mr. Shagwell

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Posted 26 July 2007 - 11:04 AM

Only one explanation why so many people including me fell into this trap.
Greed ...its the dark side of every human being. It clouds our judgment.

I can't wait for the next big thing.
I'm sure there will be another that will rise and more people that will follow.

#126 tonysoprano


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Posted 03 August 2007 - 02:28 PM

I cant wait for the next one to come up.. ha ha..

Scam the scammers is the way to make loads of cash from these people..

#127 Mr Wade

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Posted 04 August 2007 - 02:01 AM

hahahahahahahaha dami talagang bobong pinoy ganito lang
ride na kagad!!!


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Posted 07 August 2007 - 03:30 PM

ganyan talaga pag gusto mo na malaki kita, mas malaki nawawala... too bad there's no such thing as easy money

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Posted 19 August 2007 - 02:53 PM

wahihihi! good thing, i dont fall for such things!

#130 cyberphobia


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Posted 18 September 2007 - 12:49 AM

they are not just greedy, they are stupid. Nung me nag-offer sakin nito last May, tumanggi ako. Sabi ko, ayokong magkapera na galing lang sa mga kaibigan ko na ire-recruit kong downlines. Nagalit pa sakin yung nag-offer nuon. Ngayon, mas maraming galit sa kanyang downlines nya. Yung pagtitiwalang nawala, hindi mo na maibabalik yun.

Kung titingnan mo, mas maganda pa nga yung MLM/Networking companies dati kahit papaano (I didnt fell for those, neither). At least, sila me product na binibenta. Medyo mahal nga lang.

I still prefer legitimate businesses. Kung wala kang talent magpatakbo ng business, invest in stocks. If you dont want risks, galingan mo na lang trabaho mo para mabigyan ka ng raise ng boss mo. :D

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Posted 18 September 2007 - 03:24 PM

ang masasabi ko lang kawawa din ang mga naloko nitong scam na ito especially dun sa mga naghirap makaipon, hindi naman ako naawa dun sa nag invest na ang pera ay galing sa illegal means...

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Posted 12 October 2007 - 08:03 PM

Actually this is called the "Ponzi" those who joined early has their investment secure up to a certain stage where the structure starts crubling together with the money of teh investors.

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 10:23 AM

may memo and galing sa Central Bank about the ponzi scheme at included and name ng Francswiss.us.

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 07:38 PM

Ang tagal na nito ah. Buhay pa ba? Wala na website nito and pinatay na yung ibang Financial adviser nito..

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 01:00 AM

pinatay ang financial adviser? talaga? nabalita ba to? sino?

#136 Flash Sentry

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 02:17 PM

hahahahahahahaha dami talagang bobong pinoy ganito lang
ride na kagad!!!

Hindi naman bobo, but desperation is what's making people invest in things like this. Sa hirap ng buhay, ika nga kahit sa patalim kakapit na.

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 08:54 PM

Hindi naman bobo, but desperation is what's making people invest in things like this. Sa hirap ng buhay, ika nga kahit sa patalim kakapit na.

with due respect bro. i beg to disagree. most pyramid investors have money. its not kapit sa patalim. its more of greed, & raking in easy money...

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Posted 02 August 2008 - 06:08 PM

hmmm... it looks too good to be true

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Posted 30 July 2015 - 12:55 PM

As the saying goes, if it's too good to be true, it's probably not.


that's absolutely correct

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