Pc's Open 24/7

[brianicaro]

ok lang na 24/7 ang PC mo, as long as you have a good CPU fan, case fan, and most important dapat branded PSU mo.

[the_Master]

I think 24 OK pero 7 hinde....it can't stand it.

[vanillasky]

how about for laptops? I noticed nag oautomatic shutdown minsan ang laptop.. nagoverheat kaya yun pag ganun..

Edited June 6, 2007 by vanillasky

[mat#lab]

how about for laptops? I noticed nag oautomatic shutdown minsan ang laptop.. nagoverheat kaya yun pag ganun..

 

 

yes...laptops overheat.. just dont leave them running for a very long time.unless u have a cooling pad underneath. but sometimes cooling pad is no use here in p.i. bec its so hot..if u dont have a/c, make sure it gets hit by your regular electric fan.

 

oh and one more thing, incline your laptop,dont just let it sit on the top. bec it traps the heat..

[Bullet1]

I was first using a dell latitude laptop for downloading torrent movies and I have left it on for 24/7 (with power save mode o the monitor) continuously with a rest period of one hour every week. I have never experienced any automatic shutdown due to overheating. I have jut elevated it from the table so that air can freely circulate in its underside.

 

I then transferred the task of downloading to my trustworthy Dell Pentium 3 desktop PC. This also was my workhorse for downloading and for watching downloaded movies and music center for 24/7. This is a very heavy duty PC if I may say. I even upgraded it with a DVD ROM Drive and an Audigy Soundcard.

 

Unfortunately I have sold this already.

 

I am now breaking in a C2D E6320 (stock fan ) desktop PC in a dual CRT monitor set up with generic PSU and 7300 GT OC video card. It has been running for 4 days now non stop and I’ll try to monitor the performance of this PC. I used it for some hours of gaming also (Half Life and LOTR: Battle for Middle Earth) It has 2 small exhaust fans and some cathode lights inside and I placed it in a ventilated area.

 

I suspect that the generic PSU that is bundled with the casing will be the first to go kaput and I have to invest in a good quality PSU.

 

I’m here in KSA by the way.

[boomouse]

I agree with the observation that 24/7 operation is not an issue for properly made computers. The bargain priced units most people buy are use components put together on the basis of price with some influence on what kind of componentry the buyer wants never in terms of matched capabilities so I believe these things are really just for schoolboys--not to be trusted in a crunch time environment.

 

I have machnes that have been on for almost three years without a hiccup. Of course this is a server and they were designed for this kind of duty (Apple XServe G4) but I do have an iMac that has been on for ov er a year and a Mac Pro that has been one for almost 3 months since delivery.

 

I don't like turning computers off especially in high humidity situations where the AC is turned off in the evening. I find that under the right conditions, condensation will form if your computer does not produce any heat. Better to keep it on while under warranty, and then keep it on some more for two more years under extended warranty like AppleCare then sell the darn things for book value when fully depreciated and replace with newer models.

[TAZMAN888]

maybe server is the answer to this

[Season_Girl]

sa dektop ok lang as long as may non-stop ventilation din..

for laptop, i dont think so..ewan ko..naaawa lang ako sa notebook ko pag iniiwan kong bukas magdamag hehehehe..

[Psyanne]

Ok lang kung maganda ang ventilation and auto shut-off yung crt monitor cuz you don't want to burn your screen do you?

[markus_cruzade]

In my experience sa dati kong office..we leave it open kasi for downloading torrents heheheh :thumbsupsmiley: Oki naman buksan mo PC Desktop ng 24/7 you just have to make sure na papatayin mo monitor mo...then me ventilation ang CPU for heat ... and lastly dont get yun mga cheap AVR ..if pwede direct sa outlet make sure alang fluctuation sa place nyo...kahit alang AVR oki lang... one friend of mine did this in his home w/ an AVR na cheap ayun... umusok ang AVR para daw me napagkitang multo sa room nya...heheheh :goatee:

[prohunter]

ok lng for pc open 24/7, peru ur nid to check the psu, medyo mabilis sira psu ngayon

[russelltkd]

dati desktop ko 24/7 na naka open tpos notebook ko usually overnyt na naka-on

[sky_walker]

oks lang yan basta well ventilated yung place or mas oks kung may aircon.

most of the company 24/7 mga pc nila and even 7 days a week pa. siguro pahinga lang nun restart e.

[thirteen]

Keeping your pc on 24/7 is ok....Just be sure you don't have a cheap PSU! It's also good practice to turn the pc off once in a while to vacuum or clean the internal fans.

[webmaster_ph]

as with any other electronic appliance, its life is shortened by stress brought about by several energy sources such as heat, electricity, etc.

[Carlito4977]

as with any other electronic appliance, its life is shortened by stress brought about by several energy sources such as heat, electricity, etc.

I agree.

 

It depends on how much you really need to open your PC. If you can make it rest, of course it is for the better. But if you think you could gain more by leaving it open, by all means do it.

 

Frequent on and off could also shorten the lifespan of your PC. Power outages, cold solders, and leaked capacitors, are just some of the probable effects of frequent on and off.

[mistere57]

i dont think theres anything really wrong with leaving your pc open 24/7 ang nakakatakot lang talaga is yung mga spikes and fluctuations ng kuryente tapos pag overheat ng psu... cgro just make sure well ventilated at protected lang para di naman madali masira yung pc mo...

 

i remember my old athlon xp na bumigay lang yung capacitors ng board after 5 years... it was on 24/7 majority of the time kc nk dial up pa ko before kya sinusulit ko yung mga madaling araw for downloads tapos i use it for my work and personals during the day...

[gatlobil]

is it ok for home desktops or pc's to be open at an average of lets say 6 days a week? ung tipong walang pahinga. iniiwan lang bukas kapag kakain, tapos iiwan din bukas kpg matutulog na dahil may tinatapos na madownload. basta palaging bukas ung pc. ok lng b or madaling masira? ano naman ang unang massira? need your opinions here...tnx...

 

 

there have been a lot of discussion in other forums regarding this for as long as I can remember. The biggest issue today in heat, therefore a good cooling system is required if you're planning to keep your computer running 24/7. Another issue is power surge/fluctuation. This is the second biggest killer in your system.

 

A lot of people will actually recommend running your system 24/7, rather than turning it on for a few minutes or hour the turning it off, then on again, off again, then on.. you know what I mean..

 

Having your PC turned on constantly minimizes the power surge going through your system everytime you power-up. More power is needed to turn-on a PC than it is needed to run it..that is why, when having problems with your pc, avoid pulling the plug from the outlen or the back of your PC or pressing the power button. Try resetting the pc first kasi di masyado nagbabago ang amount the kuryente sa PC components mo.

 

When keeping your PC on 24/7 just make sure you have decent power surge protetor, wag yung mga murang AVR na nabibili for around 500 pesos or less, better yet, make sure you have decent UPS before you consider leaving your system on 24/7..

 

Of course don't forget na kelangan pa rin ng system mo ng maintenance so there should also be a downtime para mag-cool down yung PC mo (para bang bakasyon after a long time sa trabahao)

[EvilAgent]

since i learn how to operate a desktop computer and link it to internet i never turn my computer off except for situations of maintenance and special something... i never had a problem with it naman my very first computer pentium 1 runs for 1 yr and let it rest due to update (i had an amd duron)... they said amd processors heat up easily i dont think so.. i dont have aircon in my room but im keeping it alive (downloading porns) imagine downloading 100mb then using a 56k dial up connection... you need patience hehehhe ....

 

for my laptop try to reserve your lcd monitor.. lcd monitor have a life limit... so its not advisable to turn your laptop 24/7

[ilb4u2nyt]

a UPS and a good quality ventilation for the pc is one good factor for keeping it alive and kicking 24/7. Seen an online account server for data transaction working for more than 2 years none stop because of hot-swapping capability and redundancy of system backups and components.

[boomouse]

as with any other electronic appliance, its life is shortened by stress brought about by several energy sources such as heat, electricity, etc.

 

No. what will shorten the life of your computer is what engineers call 'thermal cycling' -- the cycle of cooling down and heating up computer components when they are regularly turned on and then off. Remember you have thin metal of various materials and various linear expansion coefficients attached to a thermall stable substrate like mica. Over time, the stress of expansion and contraction will cause solder points to produce gaps which will lead to untraceable hardware errors because of the minute electrical values involved.

 

When you think that a solder on a circuit board gave out because of heat it is actually more because of this process of cooling down and heating up. Under these conditions, mediocre quality solder points will give out over time.

 

This is why it is best to keep the temp of your circuits stable by keeping them on with adequate airconditioning/ventilation. My rule of thumb is that for as long as inside box temperatures are 10 degrees C higher than ambient then it is okay.

 

Laptops are a different story. They use low power components and give off and produce less heat so thermal cycling is less of an issue.

[idunno]

If you are turning on your PC for 24/7 downloading (torrent, etc.) then just use a laptop rather than a full blown desktop PC.

 

- You don't need high computational power in download (it's not like your crunching numbers to solve a biochemical problem)

- Laptops consumes less power (don't contribute to the global warming)

- Lesser noise so you can sleep peacefully

- You have a built-in UPS system in your laptop because of the battery system (less danger with power surges)

[boomouse]

there have been a lot of discussion in other forums regarding this for as long as I can remember. The biggest issue today in heat, therefore a good cooling system is required if you're planning to keep your computer running 24/7. Another issue is power surge/fluctuation. This is the second biggest killer in your system.

 

A lot of people will actually recommend running your system 24/7, rather than turning it on for a few minutes or hour the turning it off, then on again, off again, then on.. you know what I mean..

 

This is actually an old wives tale.

 

The reason you want your computer on all the time is so that you want to eliminate the biggest source of stress on electronic components and it is not the heat. A properly designed computer will always be able to handle heat buildup. A decent PSU will be able to handle fluctuating electricity within a certain range, say 190vac to 240 vac. This is because it uses a 'switching' ower transistor to mitigate the voltage fluctuations. What you want is a powerline filter that will trap any sudden spikes in electricity and or suppress surges.

 

The main source of long-term unreliability in any electronic device is what you call thermal cycling. This happens when the tempretature of a device is caused to regularly go up and down due to a cycle of turning it on and turning it off. For example, in a high humidity country like the Philippines turning off your office computer at the end of the day will allow the components to cool down to the point where the colder pre-cooled office air can allow the appearance of condensation on the electronic circuits. Remember you no longer have the system heat AND the cooling fans to prevent this. So, if some condensate just happens to be in the right place between say two sensitive connections when you turn on your computer in the morning you will soon start having problems and it will drive you crazy trying to figure out why.

[kimkulit]

so sir dapat may fan/aircon 24/7? to maintain the temp kahit off ang pc? for example off ko computer ko pero un fan itutuk ko sa pc? ganun ba?

[boomouse]

so sir dapat may fan/aircon 24/7? to maintain the temp kahit off ang pc? for example off ko computer ko pero un fan itutuk ko sa pc? ganun ba?

 

If you can have a fan cycling air through your PC box even when it is off that will help a lot because you will prevent condensate from forming on the circuits.