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#1 FleurDeLune

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 01:00 PM

This seems to be one of the implications of Trump’s Immigration policy. What do you think guys?

 

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“Pinapili nila ako kung uuwi ba ako or gusto ma detain,” he said.

He was then escorted to Los Angeles International Airport and by 10 p.m. he was on a Philippine-bound plane on a ticket that he paid for himself. It was only at this time that he was able to speak to his wife within 24 hours. Galleon was no longer in the US.

Caught by surprise by ICE and with no access to legal help advocates, there could've been a different outcome if he was more informed. With two US citizen children and no criminal record, they say he may have had a chance to fight off the deportation orders.

But they say that ICE agents will intentionally intimidate their targets and never tell them their rights.

“ICE, if you interact with them, are trying to get you to sign your own voluntary departure. He was asking for legal assistance and they were ignoring that and in the end they gave him false options. There was a bond process. If he was able to connect to legal services like here at PWC, we could've galvanized legal support and community support so that he could've gotten out on bond,” said Aqui Soriano Versoza of the Pilipino Workers Center.

With nowhere to go, his wife and two US citizen children followed him home to Zamboanga about a week later.

The PWC is now trying to rally monetary and emotional support for his family.

This weekend, Galleon will address a group of undocumented workers at the Filipino Workers center during a Know Your Rights Workshop.

While the former crewman's 7 years stay in the US may have come to an abrupt end, he hopes his story can unify and warn his kababayans and give them a fighting chance to survive in this tough immigrant climate.

More here.

 



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 03:21 PM

We can't do anything on their current policy now.  Too bad he didn't got any legal assistance but even if he does he will probably sent home anyway.  If I were Trump though, I would just do an amnesty program to screen those undocumented immigrants from different nationalities who are qualified to be an American.  Sana lang huwag umiral yung crab mentality natin dito kasi alam ko dati yung mga kapwa Filipino pa yung nagsusumbong sa awtoridad para sila madeport.

Na miss ko tuloy si MDS dati kung paano sigawan yung mga illegal  nationalities dito.  Pwede natin gawin yan sa mga mahuhuling overstaying Americans dito.



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 04:03 PM

I assume his two children are US citizens because they were born there.

Based on the age of his son, his wife must have been staying illegally in the US for more than 9 years, while he joined her by jumping ship 2 years after his son was born .

 

He is a perfect example of an illegal alien who can be deported. 

 

But he can wait for his children to reach 21-years-old, when they can petition him to live permanently in the US.


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Posted 30 March 2017 - 04:24 PM

This seems to be one of the implications of Trump’s Immigration policy. What do you think guys?
 
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At the end of the day, when all the smoke has cleared, he is still an illegal alien. These Americans have every right to protect their country against this unfortunate situation. We only see one side of the coin. " Kawawa naman daw." But whose fault was it? Certainly not the US gov't's. In the first place, bakit siya undocumented? Tapos mag aanak doon para in the future mayroon na siyan foothold sa citizenship process. Is that fair? I-apply natin yan sa case natin. Eh kung ang lahat ng mga inchek na dumating sa atin from China, mag settle sa for good sa Tutuban? Halata mo naman na most of them didn't come here to see the sights but to make money. May pakinabang ba ang gov't natin sa kanila? Ganun din ang America. Sorry na Lang Kay kabayan, nahuli siya. Ganyan talaga. Ayusin niya muna ang papers niya.
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Posted 30 March 2017 - 04:30 PM

His intention to settle in the US was planned with deception to start with. He knew the risks. We are all immigrants? Then prove it. Potential immigrants, maybe. Baka lumusot nga naman yung style nila to go around the US Imm policy. But at the time he was deported, illegal siya.

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 05:17 PM

The sign "WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS" is by #dullesresistance, which is against the ban against muslims entering the US from selected countries.

 

They welcome visitors from all countries regardless of race or religion.

 

They are not protesting the deportation of illegal aliens. 

 

 

The sign highlights the fact that the USA, as a nation, are all made up of immigrants from all over the world.



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 10:16 PM

as a pinoy I never want to live in USA dahil di naman ako Americano... at kung pupunta ka dun asahan mo na na di maganda ang I-ttrato sayo kasi dayo ka lang... di natin sila kaugali nag pag ibang lahi eh asikaso natin, I'm with Trump with this Americano na muna, like here in our country Dapat pinoy na muna.


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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:55 AM

This is one of the reason why he won the presidency. Its one of his campaign promises.



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Posted 31 March 2017 - 02:14 PM

"Undocumented" nuff said.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 04:14 PM

Illegal immigrant, 'nuff said.



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Posted 01 April 2017 - 05:43 AM

"Undocumented" nuff said.

 

check.

 

Illegal immigrant, 'nuff said.

 

check.

 

Nothing to discuss here. He was in the US illegally thus he was deported.

 

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What needs to be discussed here is how ABS-CBN (fake news like CNN and ABC) spins ICE as the devil.

 

"But they say that ICE agents will intentionally intimidate their targets and never tell them their rights."

 

He was in the US illegally and ICE did their job. That's it, period. ICE will never detain you or meddle with your business if they do not have to.

 

(Let the hate begin. LOL)


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 02:21 PM

nagkataon pa na mukhang Arabo. yari na.



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Posted 02 April 2017 - 01:01 AM

If he is really an undocumented alien and can't show valid and legal papers of his stay, then there is nothing he can do. You cannot fault the U,S. gov't for that. Simpe lang, meron ka bang mga legal na papeles o wala? Yun lang yun. Kasi kahit illegal ang pagpasok mo pero may legal papers ka to show that your stay is now legal, legal na. Pero again kung wala eh sorry talaga madedeport ka. Kahit naman before the Trump administration ganun na eh. Legal papers of your stay lang talaga ang laban mo sa ganyan.

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Posted 02 April 2017 - 02:21 PM

Look at the reactions and comments to the youtube post: 

 

follow this link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymJNaUji2wM 

 

Almost no one ever showed any sympathy for him.

 

Here are the samples:

 

Justin3C 2 days ago
you stay there illegally now they caught you, deported you  and then now saying you gonna fight for your right? what is your right to stay in US then?
 
John W 2 days ago
The US CONSTITUTION does not provide illegal aliens rights. Stop spreading your misinformation. US citizens are afforded rights under the constitution, not illegal aliens. 
 
GamerDude 2 days ago
7 Years di mo na-isipan mag-apply ng Legal Passport/VISA? Wag sabhihin di ka nakapag-ipon sa loob ng pitong taon..
 
Sas Soom 2 days ago
Hello, what rights? 
You don't have any rights, you broke the USA Law, "you jumped ship" therefore,  "you are illegal" why is that so hard to understand?
 
Ronald Aguirre 3 days ago
maging patas kasi kayo.. pag nahuli malakas pa loob na magreklamo.. ipaglaban daw ang karapatan, kung legal ka dun ka lang may karapatan.. pumarehas kayo para wala kayong sakit ng ulo..

 

Yolanda Mejia 2 days ago
He jumped ship. So I'm assuming he doesn't have a passport nor a visa. How did he survive 7 years working? He was probably using a fake social security number. That alone is illegal. Dude, you're not entitled to any rights.
 
franzb69 2 days ago
these people are like squatters. they go out to the states and tnt then what? expect the same rights as a regular civilian? what they did is a crime and should be dealt as such

 

Takla Moday 2 days ago
you need to respect other country's right to implement their law, you went there illegally, for sure you know that there is the high risk of being caught, you were given the option to go home voluntarily or be detained... you broke their law entering without a visa and now you are asking for your right??? I wonder if a foreigner breaks Philippine law if they will be given the same dignified voluntary departure.
 
D&J Lovely Joe 2 days ago (edited)
Ano ba ang ipaglalaban mo manong? Nakinabang ka na nga sa pagtatrabaho ng walang mga kung anu-anong papeles at kaltas sa sweldo mo puro ka pa reklamo. Mabuti nga at hindi ka ikinulong, kundi mas malaking perwisyo sa yo. Kaya napakahigpit ng US government sa pagbibigay ng visa sa mga ibang kapwa natin Pinoy kahit na wala naman talagang intensyon na mag overstay dahil na rin sa kagagawan ng mga gaya mong TNT. Nakinabang ka nga sa sarili mo habang ang karamihan nating kababayan kahit emergency na, yung iba nga medical emergency pa hindi pa rin mabigyan ng US Visa. Tapos ipaglalaban mo pa ang pagiging illegal mo sa Amerika. Sino sa tingin mo mas lalong maapektuhan? Yung iba o tingnan mo 25 years ng naghihintay ng visa, yung iba nakamatayan na wala pa rin, tapos ikaw mag-complain pa eh wala ka ngang dokumento. Wag namang ganyan...magpasalamat ka na lang at ngayon ka lang hinuli.
 
Nonnie Tavisola 2 days ago
you came in illegally, you had every chance to correct your status during your 7 years of staying in California, you could have asked your employer to petition you... yet you did not do it?  Immigration process is indeed expensive but you could have saved for it... and now the media is taking advantage of using you as the "pity party" narrative, to politically "gain" audience against President Trump, and you allowed yourself to be shamed by these media people.  Filipinos will stand for what is right, i am sure you have that too.... just don't understand why you fell for these false promises that there are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS "rights"... a bunch of crap, frankly speaking.  THE LAW is not politics,  US CONSTITUTION is not politics... your "position" is being used for "political gain".  Wake up to the truth, reality is - what you did was wrong, you had the chance to correct it but you did not, now you faced the consequences of your action, just accept it so you can move forward in life.

Edited by camiar, 02 April 2017 - 02:33 PM.


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Posted 02 April 2017 - 09:55 PM

Illegal is illegal but I feel sorry for our kababayan who had to suffer this fate which he didn't even tried to file for some legal papers during his stay. Now to the media, no need to emphasize "first Trump-deported...", regardless of whose administration is it, an illegal immigrant really has to be deported.



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 12:32 AM

I take umbrage to this entire situation. I'll concede that everyone's views on this thread so far are true and I agree that the man and wife are technically illegally residing in the U.S. based on their lack of documents that give them authorization to stay.

 

However, whoever cites constitutional violations and states that being an alien that does not belong in the U.S. can go fack themselves. A couple hundred years ago, the territory was occupied by illegal aliens, eventually settling and colonizing it. Someone from here, preferably of Anglo descent, please educate me on how this Filipino man is any different than what the Irish, French, British or any third- or fourth-generation of European ancestry did during that time frame.

 

I believe this gentleman and his wife was made an example out of. The government agency did do their job by enforcing policy. He was in the wrong for living somewhere he weren't supposed to be living in based on an established set of laws. I don't think he could've avoided being detained and subsequently deported back to PI. But I do believe it's a kick in the face to him that his Mexican neighbor(s) are still roaming around free, gaining access to free healthcare, supplemental welfare assistance and other benefits all from hopping over the fence or crawling through a cave to cross the border. 

 

This man was most probably part of a hard-working family that was working under the table to make ends meet and create opportunities for their U.S.-born children. I doubt that he was even milking the government of its benefits although was in the wrong for not paying any taxes and contributing back to the country. Based on Trump's business views, a person(s) not contributing to the success of his business that is his country is grounds for termination, or in this case, deportation.

 

I'm pretty certain that this man and his family hardly posed any threat relative to the other demographic residing in his area. I'll speculate that one of his neighbors living beside him or a coworker was curious where he was from and delved deeper into this man's origins of Zamboanga, discovered that it was an area of predominant Muslims, judged that his background to the current threat to the U.S. and reported him. I don't think this is far-fetched or reaching but a very probably scenario.

 

With that being said, this particular case or other similar cases is hurting Philippine immigrants that want to settle and expand their opportunities in another land. It takes one, only one, to adversely affect the goals of others. If anybody, particularly the media chooses to spin this and focus on the Muslim population in the Philippines, it would probably affect everyone's chances of trying to make it to the U.S. 


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 09:20 AM


 

I believe this gentleman and his wife was made an example out of. The government agency did do their job by enforcing policy. He was in the wrong for living somewhere he weren't supposed to be living in based on an established set of laws. I don't think he could've avoided being detained and subsequently deported back to PI. But I do believe it's a kick in the face to him that his Mexican neighbor(s) are still roaming around free, gaining access to free healthcare, supplemental welfare assistance and other benefits all from hopping over the fence or crawling through a cave to cross the border. 

 

 

Trump specifically identified Mexicans in his anti illegal border crossing which is why they hate him now.

 

A similar situation

http://www.bbc.com/n...canada-38921968

 

A Mexican woman who lived illegally in the US from the age of 14 has been deported back to her home country.

 

Seven protesters were arrested as they tried to block the vehicle taking her away from the immigration office in Phoenix, Arizona, where she was held.

Guadalupe Garcia de Rayos, 36, has two children born in the US.



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 01:33 PM

Mexican, Iranian, Filipino, it doesn't matter. An illegal alien is illegal, no matter which country you came from.


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Posted 04 April 2017 - 12:55 AM

Kung makapag comment ang karamihan dito parang alam na alam nila ang U.S. immigration laws at statutes.

 

Isip ipis talaga ang karamihan sa mga pilipino, dada sila ng dada di naman nila alam ang tunay na resa-resa ng nangyari at mga nangyayari dito sa Estados Unidos.

 

nakatumba na nga yun tao, pinagsisipa pa lalo sa mga kumento nila.

 

alam nyo ba na lahat ng tao sa Estados Unidos ay may karapatan pangtao?

 

mapa undocumented immigrant ka man or US citizens pareho lang ang mga karapatan pangtao nyo.

 

at hindi sya illegal alien, sya ay isang undocumented immigrant, ang terminong "illegal alien" ay di na ginagamit sa mga pahayag ng gobyerno dahil ito ay di tugma sa tunay na kahulugan ng salita, dahil wala naman sya krimen na ginawa at di naman sya na hatulan ng korte, kaya di sya pwedeng tawagin "illegal alien". Hindi naman krimen ang mabuhay sa Estados Unidos, hindi nga lang pinapayagan ng gobyerno ng Estados Unidos ang manirahan ng walang kaukulan pahintulot galing sa gobyerno, kaya nga dapat may US visa para makapunta sa Estados Unidos. 

 

Kaya hindi krimen ang manirahan at mabuhay sa U.S., ito'y labag sa batas pero di ito krimen, dahil kung ito ay krimen, di kanila papayagan umalis na lamang, ang immigration laws at statutes ng Estados Unidos ay masalimuhot kaya huwag kayong magkumento tungkol sa batas kung di nyo naman alam ito.

 

I've been here in the States for more than 15 years. I've never been an undomented immigrant since I came here but I went into the whole process to get my legal permanent resident status and never thought of acquiring U.S. citizenship. It was a long and tedious process that's why I know what I am talking about. I also know the feeling, angst and anxiety of other Filipinos who are going through with this process right now because is not easy nor is it guaranteed.

 

So please be considerate and thoughtful with your comments.


Edited by private5star, 04 April 2017 - 01:02 AM.


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Posted 04 April 2017 - 12:52 PM

^^You should be pleased that Filipinos today have sense to differentiate between  suffering the consequences of violating the law and suffering discrimination and abuse in guise of the law.

 

If the Philippine Bureau of Immigration personnel apprehend Chinese, Indian, American, European etc... who are staying illegally in the Philippines, I wouldn't mind at all if BI deport them immediately on the same day, on a plane ticket bought with their own money.

 

What the ICE did was appropriate. What the deportee did by staying there illegally was not. Trying to get sympathy afterwards through media is pathetic and irresponsible. 

 

Kelangan ko bang maging expert sa immigration laws before I can comment in this manner? 


Edited by FleurDeLune, 06 April 2017 - 10:37 AM.
No personal attacks, please!

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