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#1 FleurDeLune

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 12:45 PM

Another heartwrenching incident unfolded over this weekend particularly in Las Vegas. It was a horrific mass shooting incident which could possibly happen again if no action from anyone would have ever taken. 

 

Please take note that we're talking about this in a typical manner since I assume that this is applicable to anywhere in the world. Even in your neighborhood. 

 

So, let's get started. Are you for gun control or gun rights? Support your answer. 

 

(Here's to determine the concept)

 

 



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 12:54 PM

It really depends on the area. Less restrictive gun laws might be applicable to a certain country/state while a stricter set of laws is necessary for other places.  


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 01:42 PM

Sa U.S. nga mas mabilis ang gun control pero ayaw nila. Mga gunmen suspects puro sa gun strore lang nila binibili mga armas. Mga guns advocate kontrolado pati kongreso kaya di makausad pati si Obama walang magawa nung gusto niya ito ma control.  Ang lagi nilang reason hindi naman yung baril ang may kasalanan kundi yung tao. Pero hindi nila iniisip yung easy access ng mga armas sa mga ganitong klaseng tao.

 

  Dito karamihan sumpak o kaya sa illegal na paraan nakukuha kaya di mo ma control yan .  Yung mga ibang  politiko pa sa province may mga private army.



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 02:24 PM

I vote for Gun Control. People should not be allowed to buy High Powered Arms like Machine Guns and Sniper Rifles. Once you bring those kind outside of your home, those aren't used for protection anymore. But yeah, in the US they don't even do a background check when a person purchases a weapon

 

What is the take of the NRA right now?



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 02:49 PM

Even after this incident.  Idol kasi nila si Charlton Heston kaya guns pa more.

 

http://www.latimes.c...-htmlstory.html

 

Gun Control
Oct. 2, 2017, 10:11 a.m.
Reporting from Washington
GOP still plans to vote on NRA-backed legislation that eases gun restrictions

Congress has been unable, or unwilling, to approve gun control legislation after recent mass shootings — including one targeting lawmakers playing baseball — and it is unlikely to consider new bills after the attack in Las Vegas.

To the contrary, House Republicans are on track to advance legislation easing firearms rules, including a package of bills backed by the National Rifle Assn. that would make it easier to purchase silencers.

Opponents of the bill argue that making silencers more prevalent could worsen the impact of mass shootings. Supporters say silencers can prevent hearing damage among hunters.

The Sportsman's Heritage and Recreational Enhancement Act (SHARE Act) was introduced last month, and gun advocates hoped for swift passage. It would allow gun owners to transport registered firearms across state lines, carry guns in national parks and eliminate the $200 transfer tax on silencers.

Earlier versions of the bill had stalled under President Obama, but advocates have been hopeful that Congress will send it to President Trump's desk to become law.

"America’s gun owners have been waiting for many years for Congress to send the SHARE Act to the president’s desk," the NRA's legislative arm wrote last month when the bill was introduced. "Their patience may now be rewarded with the strongest, most far-reaching version of the Act yet."

The legislation was advancing through Congress even after gun safety advocates raised concerns that silencers could prove even more deadly in a mass shooting.

Another NRA priority is a bill that would allow gun owners who live in states that allow people to carry concealed weapons to carry them in other states, overriding state laws to the contrary. That bill has not been scheduled for a vote. 

Bills toughening gun laws, a subject on which the nation has long been bitterly divided, have repeatedly stalled in Congress. Nearly all Republicans in Congress oppose new gun control legislation, and several Democrats from rural states have also voted to stop previous gun control moves. 

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), who has taken the lead on gun safety issues after a gunman opened fire and killed 20 children at a Newtown elementary school in 2012, urged lawmakers to act.  

“This must stop. It is positively infuriating that my colleagues in Congress are so afraid of the gun industry that they pretend there aren't public policy responses to this epidemic," Murphy said. "It's time for Congress to get off its ass and do something."



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 06:18 PM

In PH, given that when we need the police we dont have assurance that they will come on time kahit na may 911 or whatever number we need to call, its our right to find ways to defend our selves out families and our home. 


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 09:09 PM

Isa sa pinaka mahigpit na bansa ang Pilipinas pagdating sa gun control. Dapat luwagan ang mga batas tungkol sa baril dito sa bansa para maka patas mga mahihirap sa mga mayayaman.

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:15 AM

Isa sa pinaka mahigpit na bansa ang Pilipinas pagdating sa gun control. Dapat luwagan ang mga batas tungkol sa baril dito sa bansa para maka patas mga mahihirap sa mga mayayaman.

 

May pambili ba ng baril ang mga mahihirap? Mga hawak nila sumpak.



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Posted 04 October 2017 - 12:43 PM

Gun control. There should be qualifications & background checks not just for a certain area but everywhere. For me, no one in the right frame of mind should be able or even think of purchasing a gun no matter what caliber.

 

Isa sa pinaka mahigpit na bansa ang Pilipinas pagdating sa gun control. Dapat luwagan ang mga batas tungkol sa baril dito sa bansa para maka patas mga mahihirap sa mga mayayaman.

Never magiging patas ang laban, di naman ang mayayaman ang bumabaril sa mga mahihirap. Ang mga mahihirap mismo ang naguubusan kasi naiisip nila na bakit merong ganito ang kasama nila pero sila wala. It all boils down to have me nots.



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Posted 04 October 2017 - 02:23 PM

The gunman was a rich guy... could be another case of depression? he is rich and he cant take his wealth into ghe grave si why not take other people with him.

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:26 AM

Gun control. Just look at australia (studied there).

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:50 AM

SIngapore has Gun Control as well.



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Posted 05 October 2017 - 08:23 AM

 
May pambili ba ng baril ang mga mahihirap? Mga hawak nila sumpak.

Naman ...hindi lahat.

Kung drugs nga may pambili di ba...

Besides di ba ang argumento nga sa wod eh yun mga adik sila pasimuno ng krimen. Nanghohold-up, nagnanakaw, pumapatay. So saan galing mga baril na ginagamit? Napulot o bigay?

Ako gun control gusto ko.

Edited by rooster69ph, 05 October 2017 - 08:24 AM.


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 08:34 AM

Naman ...hindi lahat.

Kung drugs nga may pambili di ba...

Besides di ba ang argumento nga sa wod eh yun mga adik sila pasimuno ng krimen. Nanghohold-up, nagnanakaw, pumapatay. So saan galing mga baril na ginagamit? Napulot o bigay?

Ako gun control gusto ko.

 

Ano ba akala mo sa sumpak? Di pwedeng gamitin sa holdap, di siya makakapatay?  Yan ang poor man's gun.  HIndi sila pumupunta sa gunstore para mamili na baril at i parehistro for gun control.

Bu tI did vote for gun control, hindi lang talaga ganun magiging effective dito sa Phil.



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Posted 05 October 2017 - 09:33 AM

This issue is anthropologic in that aggression is in humankind's genes for survival. I vote gun control simply because guns multiply casualties of aggression. Checking aggression for modern, civil times is a much larger issue, but guns and weapons of mass destruction escalate it to a level never seen before in the history of civilization.



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Posted 05 October 2017 - 09:46 AM

 
Ano ba akala mo sa sumpak? Di pwedeng gamitin sa holdap, di siya makakapatay?  Yan ang poor man's gun.  HIndi sila pumupunta sa gunstore para mamili na baril at i parehistro for gun control.
Bu tI did vote for gun control, hindi lang talaga ganun magiging effective dito sa Phil.


Ano ba ang tanong mo...di ba kung may pera ba ang mahihirap bumili ng baril.

So are you saying lahat ng mahirap hindi gumagamit ng baril kundi sumpak lamang?

Yun pagbili at pagbenta ng baril hindi lang via legit sources like gun stores but also through underground sources. dito sa illegal source kadalasan bumibili ng baril ang "mahihirap" lalu na't yun mga balak pagkagamitan ay sa krimen.

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 10:00 AM

Ano ba ang tanong mo...di ba kung may pera ba ang mahihirap bumili ng baril.

So are you saying lahat ng mahirap hindi gumagamit ng baril kundi sumpak lamang?

Yun pagbili at pagbenta ng baril hindi lang via legit sources like gun stores but also through underground sources. dito sa illegal source kadalasan bumibili ng baril ang "mahihirap" lalu na't yun mga balak pagkagamitan ay sa krimen.

 

Kaya nga useless ang gun control sa kanila kasi hindi yan registered.  Pero I voted sa gun control here, mahirap nga lang ma implement.

 

Kahit underground mahal pa rin ang baril, ilang sachet ng shabu na katumbas nyan. kasi sumpak can give them the same result as a gun with much lower cost.  Yung ibang may baril talaga yan yung mga nasa syndicate na may nagsusupply sa kanila.  Medyo nasa middle class na makaka afford ng baril.

 

Kung marami kang alam na nakakabili ng baril ang mga mahihirap e di fine.  Just like Mar :D


Edited by haroots2, 05 October 2017 - 10:02 AM.


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 10:38 AM

 
Kaya nga useless ang gun control sa kanila kasi hindi yan registered.  Pero I voted sa gun control here, mahirap nga lang ma implement.
 
Kahit underground mahal pa rin ang baril, ilang sachet ng shabu na katumbas nyan. kasi sumpak can give them the same result as a gun with much lower cost.  Yung ibang may baril talaga yan yung mga nasa syndicate na may nagsusupply sa kanila.  Medyo nasa middle class na makaka afford ng baril.
 
Kung marami kang alam na nakakabili ng baril ang mga mahihirap e di fine.  Just like Mar :D

You are too much fixated probably on brand new guns sold by gun shops. Hindi naman yun ang binibili ng mahihirap. Kadalasan mga nakaw na baril at kinakalawang pa nga siguro ang ilan. Kaya below market price at mura at mas affordable kaysa yun nasa isip mo.

Regardless of the points/issues you've raised which is a totally different matter, bottomline balikan natin un tinanong mo ....may mga mahihirap ba na nakakabili ng baril? so Meron o wala ba?

Don't insinuate that the poor if indeed they need one specially to be use in crimes can't afford to buy guns.

Edited by rooster69ph, 05 October 2017 - 11:26 AM.


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:03 PM

You are too much fixated probably on brand new guns sold by gun shops. Hindi naman yun ang binibili ng mahihirap. Kadalasan mga nakaw na baril at kinakalawang pa nga siguro ang ilan. Kaya below market price at mura at mas affordable kaysa yun nasa isip mo.

Regardless of the points/issues you've raised which is a totally different matter, bottomline balikan natin un tinanong mo ....may mga mahihirap ba na nakakabili ng baril? so Meron o wala ba?

Don't insinuate that the poor if indeed they need one specially to be use in crimes can't afford to buy guns.

 

Kahit naman low probalility or 1 in a million chance yun pa rin ang ipipilit mo makahirit ka lang.



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Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:34 PM

 
Kahit naman low probalility or 1 in a million chance yun pa rin ang ipipilit mo makahirit ka lang.

Ipipilit ko kasi yun ang totoo ... but you are free to voice out and object.

Sa war on drugs yun mga mahihirap na napapatay ano ba laging gamit kung nanlaban...sumpak??? See the true picture? Ilan ba napatay ang bitbit baril kumpara sa sumpak? There are less than a million actual cases now in this admin's wod....and you are telling me one in a million or low probability? I really can't find the logic and consistency in your argument. quite lame based on facts if you really read and listen to what the police says.

kaya nga tinatanong kita lahat ba ng mahirap hindi makabili ng baril just like what you are insinuating. if you think so or otherwise then just say it ... yes or no lang naman yan. O baka naman you want to exercise your right to self incrimination eklavu churvaness lol. Sabi nga sa mga nagkakalat ng fake news kahapon sa senate hearing ... why don't you just admit it...na yun ibang mahirap they are able to buy.

I dont fabricate scenario like someone does ... lets be real here!

Edited by rooster69ph, 05 October 2017 - 02:02 PM.





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