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#21 Eddy Syet

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Posted 05 November 2015 - 06:23 AM

She was expressing her point of view and allegations. The only fact I see there is the debt which Marcos used for infrastructure for the betterment of the lives of the Filipinos. It wasn't Marcos' fault that the IMF increased its interest rates. 

 

If you don't feel obliged to name sources then you should be ashamed about labeling people na they're only writing "allegations" and "points-of-view" rather than facts. Kasi sa mata namin - ganun ka rin. Puro opinyon lang din. Walang facts. Since the author isn't a member here and cannot defend herself - I'm imagining you would at least have the decency to offer evidences or other credible sources when you discredited her. Pero hindi eh, you're not obliged kamo. Pero kapag ayaw mo yung sinabi ng iba, sasabihin mo - hindi sya totoo.  :rolleyes:  You see? I saw what you did there, Mr. mason_slake, or pete mitchell, or Steel Curtain, or nathan gamble or whichever name you choose next.  :lol:

 

 

 



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Posted 05 November 2015 - 10:59 PM

Haha! See? You say he wasn't acquitted, yet, you don't know the significance of the question.  :


Aba'y malay ko kung ano ba gusto mo tumbukin sa tanong na yan.

Pwedeng nagtatanong ka lang dahil hindi mo alam...

At ke daming kasong hinaharap nila ...

Alangan naman sagutin kita na nakabitin ang tanong mo...

Still it does not change the fact he was not acquitted.

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Posted 05 November 2015 - 11:26 PM

How could he be acquitted when he wasn't even arraigned?  :lol:
 
Think before you post.  :lol:


Hay naku...paulit ulit wala na naman katuturan ang mga argumento.

Paiikutin pa ako ng lokong ito...

Nabanggit ko na yang health issue na yan...

Eh yang argumento mo iisa lang naman ang kalalagyan...

Since hindi siya na arraign ...there was no conviction nor acquittal.

So the fact remains ... Your claim of non conviction does not prove his innocence to the crime.

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Posted 05 November 2015 - 11:33 PM

Hahaha...nagbuhat ng sariling bangko.

only one thing is pretty obvious.

Ampaw yang he was not convicted argument mo ... It has not and won't ever prove marcos innocence to the crimes.

Ika nga ..walang closure so wag kang assuming.

Pero sinisigurado ko wala man conviction, kahit papaano may nabawing "nakaw na yaman" mula sa kanila. Hahahaha

Edited by rooster69ph, 05 November 2015 - 11:35 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2015 - 02:54 AM

It has been almost 30 years and no Marcos is in the slammer. Those crimes have not been proven. Imeldific was acquitted in New York and two Aquino regimes couldn't even convict her. So yeah, go on waiting in vain for the closure. Good luck!  :lol:

 

Ang nakaw na yaman ay isang krimen. Bakit ni isa sa kanila wala sa kulungan? You and your allegations. What's new?  :wacko:

 

Actually, Imelda Marcos was already convicted... of graft, no less. 

 

http://www.nytimes.c...-in-manila.html

 

Source? The New York Times. Sosyal. 

 

Boo-yah!  :lol:


Edited by Eddy Syet, 06 November 2015 - 02:56 AM.


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Posted 06 November 2015 - 03:28 AM

Whatever, this is a forum where views, facts, allegations are exchanged. Again, what you and your fellow haters are raising are all allegations. I am stating facts that Marcos won the 1986 elections and was never convicted. If you can't accept these facts, that is your problem, not mine. Again, good luck with your cause. LOL.

 

Marcos won the 1986 Snap Elections? Yes and no. Depende yan kung fan ka ni Cory Aquino or ni Ferdinand Marcos.

 

Eto istorya nyan. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. ;)

 

1. The COMELEC was counting the votes for the presidential elections.

2. The counting stopped because computer analysts and tabulators in PICC walked out of their posts. They were counting votes for COMELEC. They walked out because their superiors are manipulating the election results in favor or Marcos. 

3. This "walk-out" caused the election's tabulation to be officially stopped.

4. The count? COMELEC had Ferdinand Marcos ahead by more than 1 million votes.

5. The count? NAMFREL had Aquino leading by almost 800,000 votes.

6. The rule at the time was that the body who has the authority to declare a winner was Batasang Pambansa.

7. Batasang Pambansa was dominated by Marcos loyalists.

8. So in February 1986, Batasang Pambansa declared Marcos as the winner of the "halted" elections.

9. In March 1986, the same Batasang Pambansa signed a petition nullifying the declaration of Ferdinand Marcos as president of the Republic of the Philippines and named Cory Aquino as president.

10. This became more official when hundreds of other nations, including the United States, recognized Aquino's government and leadership as legit.

 

So ang nakalimutan mong ikwento sa amin, sir... eh yung pagkapanalo ni Marcos nung 1986 was "nullified" by the same Batasang Pambansa who previously declared him as winner.

 

So sige lang... push lang natin yang nanalo si Marcos nung 1986 snap elections.

 

Dun naman sa never sya na-convict eh... mahirap litisin ang patay na.  :lol:


Edited by Eddy Syet, 06 November 2015 - 03:30 AM.


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Posted 06 November 2015 - 03:35 AM

^ Fact? Oo naman.  :lol: Opinion? In your dreams. Kino-quote nga si Bongbong eh.

 

Raissa Robles was directly quoting Bongbong Marcos and there... was... no... libel... suit.  :lol:



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 11:13 AM

Easy to nullify? Masyado ka naman bilib kay Cory. Akala ko ba hindi sya magaling? And yet, in such a short time, you think she could manipulate Batasang Pambansa?

 

It took Marcos many years to take control of critical government agencies and make them do his bidding.

 

It seems Marcos was the weakling then.



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 11:34 AM

So, it's pure speculation at this point. Crystal clear. ;)

 

my point exactly. Thanks for saving me the trouble of backreads sir  :lol:



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 11:43 AM

 

sa tanong mung ano nging silbi ang sagot WALA eh sira na nga db pwede nga sanang tourist spot na plano ng PTA tulad sa US.

 

ibaloi NPA well kung cno man sumira eh may kanya kanya silang dahilan..

 

So ang ibig mo bang sabihin nun pinagawa ito ni Marcos nun 1978 e binalak niya maging "tourist spot" ang mukha niya???  :lol:

 

Eto kasi ang dahilan ni Tourism Secretary Gonzales kung bakit sila di pumayag na sirain ito ...""Before, this was a monument to a dictatorship. Now it is a symbol of injustice. It should remain there so we never forget how this one man ruined a nation."

 

At bakit naman sinira yan ng mga Ibaloi?  Bakit ganun na lang ang kanilang pagkagalit na dapat sirain kahit na tinutulan pa mismo ni Cory ang planong pag "blow-up" dito?



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 11:59 AM

 

So ang ibig mo bang sabihin nun pinagawa ito ni Marcos nun 1978 e binalak niya maging "tourist spot" ang mukha niya???  :lol:

 

Eto kasi ang dahilan ni Tourism Secretary Gonzales kung bakit sila di pumayag na sirain ito ...""Before, this was a monument to a dictatorship. Now it is a symbol of injustice. It should remain there so we never forget how this one man ruined a nation."

 

At bakit naman sinira yan ng mga Ibaloi?  Bakit ganun na lang ang kanilang pagkagalit na dapat sirain kahit na tinutulan pa mismo ni Cory ang planong pag "blow-up" dito?

 

nakakatawa  ha ha ha ha

 

well the words came from a cabinet secretary of Corazon Aquino so whats new!

 

kung ngawa mung mkita yan eh di sana nkita mo rin kung para saan talaga yung Marcos Bust... sus ginoo



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 12:05 PM


 

 

nakakatawa  ha ha ha ha

 

well the words came from a cabinet secretary of Corazon Aquino so whats new!

 

kung ngawa mung mkita yan eh di sana nkita mo rin kung para saan talaga yung Marcos Bust... sus ginoo

 

mas gusto ko kasi mukha ni Mickey kaysa kay Macky  :lol:

 

kaya nakita ko man ... wala lang.  In short hindi ako nagsadya ng Baguio para makita yan ...


Edited by rooster69ph, 06 November 2015 - 12:06 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2015 - 12:07 PM

Who cares about the Philippone Travel Guide? My question is if it has any use. If the bust of Marcos has no use, then there is also no use for that Aquino statue.

 

hahaha ... may opinion ka pala sa sarili mo e ba't ka pa nagtanong?



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 12:34 PM

mas gusto ko kasi mukha ni Mickey kaysa kay Macky  :lol:

 

kaya nakita ko man ... wala lang.  In short hindi ako nagsadya ng Baguio para makita yan ...

 

 

hahaha pinagawa yan hindi lng para sa iyo

 

sana lng hindi ka nkikinabang sa mga nagawa at napagwa ni Marcos



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 01:13 PM

Aquino won that election? Hahaha! The last time I checked, Aquino lost that election in both the Namfrel and Comelec counts. LOL.

 

Do they (comelec and namfrel) have the power to declare the winner?  

 

Besides my source refute your claim that leading si Makoy sa Namfrel count as shown below.

 

 

NAMFREL Tally

Candidate Party Votes Corazon C. Aquino UNIDO - PDP-LABAN 7,502,601 Ferdinand E. Marcos KBL 6,787,556 NAMFRELInternational Observer Delegation: NAMFREL completed virtually all of its count on Monday, February 17, 1986; with a total of 69.03 percent of the precincts tabulated, NAMFREL reported Mrs. Aquino with 7,502,601 votes and Mr. Marcos with 6,787,556 votes, a difference of 715,045.

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 01:36 PM

I agree. The Philippine version of Mt. Rushmore.

 

Hahaha ..yun MT Rushmore pinagawa ng isang president at ang nilagay mukha ng 3 nanungkulan na presidente.  

 

Yun kay Marcos ... pinagawa niya mukha niya.  Ano ba tawag natin sa mga politiko na pag may ginawa proyekto dapat nandun ang pangalan o di kaya mukha nila?   EPAL!!!

 

 

 

 

 

hahaha pinagawa yan hindi lng para sa iyo

 

sana lng hindi ka nkikinabang sa mga nagawa at napagwa ni Marcos

 

OK lang ... di naman ako expecting.  Mas gusto ko nga na di na lang ginawa....wala naman kayong masabing silbi nito.

 

At sa sinabi mong "nagawa" ni Marcos ... well sorry ka na lang, bilang taxpayer may karapatan akong makinabang sa ginawa niya.

 

Unang una, ang pagtakbo bilang presidente ay "public service".  Hindi naman siya pinilit na tumakbo.  Kung tutuusin, overstaying na nga siya e.    

 

Ikalawa, hindi niya pera ang pinambayad sa mga pinaggagawa niya.  Kaban ng bayan yun.

 

Ikatlo, nakinabang din siya sa akin dahil may ambag ako sa pagbabayad ng mga ninakaw niyang salapi. 



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 02:09 PM

 
National Citizens' Movement
for Free Elections
(NAMFREL)
Volume 2, No.1
February 25, 2011
 
Jose S. Concepcion, Jr.
 
EDSA Revolution will always remind me of the individual acts of heroism and courage of many ordinary citizens,
who I regard as the unsung heroes under the banner of NAMFREL.
During the 1986 Snap Election, NAMFREL harnessed hundreds of thousands of volunteers nationwide to come
out and protect the ballot boxes and conducted the Operation Quick Count. NAMFREL provided a constructive
and positive way of action for every Filipino who were concerned about the future of our country. The results of
the Snap Election in the NAMFREL OQC center in De La Salle Greenhills, showed that Cory Aquino won with
7,502,601 votes compared to the 6,787,556 for former President Marcos. This record has since been enshrined
at the NAMFREL National Tally Board and also one of the mementoes treasured at the De La Salle Greenhills,
together with all the Election Results from 1986 to 2010 Elections.
 

 

 

Eto si JOCON na mismo ang nagsalita ...san ka pa?  :P


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Posted 06 November 2015 - 02:24 PM

 

Sources ba ang usapan. Kung ganun supalpal ka sa source ko: :lol:

 


 

 

 

Yun source mo inconsistent o baka bias ...  sinasabi panalo si Makoy sa NAMFREL count pero tingnan mo yun isang ginamit niyang reference ang sinasabi eto:

 

On the day of the election, NAMFREL guarded ballot boxes and tried to get a rapid tally of the results in order to prevent irregularities. A team of United States observers, which included a joint congressional delegation, issued a mild criticism of electoral abuses, but individual members expressed shock and indignation: Senator Richard Lugar claimed that between 10 and 40 percent of the voters had been disenfranchised by the removal of their names from registration rolls. The results tabulated by the government's Commission on Elections (COMELEC) showed Marcos leading, whereas NAMFREL figures showed a majority for the Aquino-Laurel ticket

 


Edited by rooster69ph, 06 November 2015 - 02:25 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2015 - 05:22 PM

Hahahaha! I almost fell off my seat laughing while reading this. Speaking of bias, you are quoting a guy who became Cory's trade secretary. Hahahaha! Sino ngayon ang biased?  :lol:

 

hahaha...e sino ba ang head ng NAMFREL?

 

Patawa ka..yun may naipakita kang panalo si Marcos sa Namfrel hindi bias pero nun napakitaan ka ng official na galing namfrel bias na agad?  

 

At wala daw akong proof na bias yun pinakita mo?  Weh iba yun walang proof sa in denial ka.  Yun basehan mo gumamit ng reference ... ibinigay yun reference pero iba ang sinasabi nun pinakita mo sa sinasabi dun sa reference.



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 08:35 PM

Hahahaha! I almost fell off my seat laughing while reading this. Speaking of bias, you are quoting a guy who became Cory's trade secretary. Hahahaha! Sino ngayon ang biased?  :lol:



Aba ikaw ang nagpakita ng namfrel count ...

Eh sino ba ang namuno ng namfrel? Hindi ba si JOCon?

Kung sa tingin mo bias pala eh di hindi mo na dapat binanggit o pinakita.

Eh nun may nakita ka na nagsasabing panalo si makoy sa namfrel hindi bias kasi pabor sa kanya kahit na namfrel daw ang basehan

Pero yun naglabas na ng opisyal na numero galing mismi sa namfrel through JoCon naging bias na? WOW!

Hahaha...hoy un reference ng pinagcopy paste mo sinasabi rin na based on namfrel count panalo si cory. Pinakita ko yun oh.

Next time bago ka mag copy paste siguraduhin mo iisa at tumutugma ang pinagsasabi ng source mo at nun sinasabing reference na ginamit nang sa ganun di ka napapahiya.





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