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anu po ba ang dapat nyang gawin? pede ba sya kumuha ng lawyer? kng ppnta sya dun ng my ksamang lawyer hndi ba sya kkasuhan agad?

Hangga't hindi siya pupunta sa DFA, hindi natin malalaman kung may problema nga siya. Pero, kung pupunta siya dun, ang worst case scenario ay sasampahan siya ng kasong kriminal dahil sa paglabag sa Passport Law.

 

Pwede siyang kumuha ng lawyer.

 

Kung pupunta siya na may kasamang lawyer, hindi ito assurance na hindi siya kakasuhan agad. Pero, makakatulomg yung lawyer sa pagsiguro na hindi malalabag ang mga karapatan niya.

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Pa Help naman po

 

Yun sa GF ko kasi dalawa birth certificate niya

 

Yun una at original wala last name saka name ng tatay niya kasi di kasal pero tama ang birth year tapos yun 2nd naman eh may last name saka name na ng tatay kaso iba yun year. Late na sila nagpakasal magulang niya

 

Nagpunta kami city hall sabi need ng writing na beneficiary siya nun tatay niya kaso patay na kasi kaya wala mapakita

 

Ang last option eh magpa delay registration na may tamang year na lang

 

Ano po sa tingin niyo?

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Pa Help naman po

 

Yun sa GF ko kasi dalawa birth certificate niya

 

Yun una at original wala last name saka name ng tatay niya kasi di kasal pero tama ang birth year tapos yun 2nd naman eh may last name saka name na ng tatay kaso iba yun year. Late na sila nagpakasal magulang niya

 

Nagpunta kami city hall sabi need ng writing na beneficiary siya nun tatay niya kaso patay na kasi kaya wala mapakita

 

Ang last option eh magpa delay registration na may tamang year na lang

 

Ano po sa tingin niyo?

ano ang ini-issue na birth certificate ng PSA (formerly NSO) pag nag-aaplay siya ng BC, yung una o yung pangalawa?

 

Hindi pupwede ang delayed registration dahil may birth certificate na siya (pag ginawa niya ang delayed registration, falsification of public documents ang kalalabasan nun dahil sa delayed registration sinasabi mo, under oath, na hindi pa siya narerehistro, which is false). pagkatapos, computerized na rin ngayon ang PSA, kaya lalabas at lalabas na rehistrado na siya, kaya may huli talaga yung balak niyang delayed registration.

 

Kung yung unang BC ang inilalabas ng PSA, at dahil patay na ang tatay niya, kakailanganin niyang dumaan sa korte para mabago ang birth certificate (idadagdag yung pangalan ng tatay niya, at iibahin ang apelyido niya) dahil mag-iiba ang status niya (from illegitimate to legitimate).

 

Kung yung pangalawa ang lumalabas, dahil taon ang babaguhin, sa korte rin ang bagsak niya (ang pwedeng baguhin sa Civil Registrar level ay pagkakamali sa araw at buwan ng kapanganakan lang).

 

Suma total, gagastos siya dahil mangangailangan siya ng abugado.

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ano ang ini-issue na birth certificate ng PSA (formerly NSO) pag nag-aaplay siya ng BC, yung una o yung pangalawa?

 

Hindi pupwede ang delayed registration dahil may birth certificate na siya (pag ginawa niya ang delayed registration, falsification of public documents ang kalalabasan nun dahil sa delayed registration sinasabi mo, under oath, na hindi pa siya narerehistro, which is false). pagkatapos, computerized na rin ngayon ang PSA, kaya lalabas at lalabas na rehistrado na siya, kaya may huli talaga yung balak niyang delayed registration.

 

Kung yung unang BC ang inilalabas ng PSA, at dahil patay na ang tatay niya, kakailanganin niyang dumaan sa korte para mabago ang birth certificate (idadagdag yung pangalan ng tatay niya, at iibahin ang apelyido niya) dahil mag-iiba ang status niya (from illegitimate to legitimate).

 

Kung yung pangalawa ang lumalabas, dahil taon ang babaguhin, sa korte rin ang bagsak niya (ang pwedeng baguhin sa Civil Registrar level ay pagkakamali sa araw at buwan ng kapanganakan lang).

 

Suma total, gagastos siya dahil mangangailangan siya ng abugado.

 

 

 

depende sir sa year na gagamitin, halimbawa yun una, 1989 , yan yun lalabas na walang name tapos pag 1991 naman yan yun may name ang lalabas

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depende sir sa year na gagamitin, halimbawa yun una, 1989 , yan yun lalabas na walang name tapos pag 1991 naman yan yun may name ang lalabas

dahil depende sa year na gagamitin, gamitin na niya yung 1991, tapos ito na ang ipacorrect niya sa korte (dahil kahit parehong sa court idadaan ang correction, mas madali ipa-correct yung year of birth, yung naunang birth certificate, mas mahirap icorrect yun dahil mas mahihirapan siya sa ebidensya na magpapatunay kung sino talaga ang ama niya [di na makakatestigo tatay niya dahil patay na nga], samantalang sa year of birth, pwedeng tumestigo ang nanay niya at ibang kamag-anak na nagkamali lang talaga sa year of birth).

 

NOTE: May posibilidad na kapag nabago to 1989 yung year of birth sa pangalawang birth certificate, mapansin ng PSA na dalawa ang kanyang birth certificate (lalabas na kasi sa computerized records ng PSA na for 1989, dalawa ang birth certificate kung saan yung pangalan niya, pangalan ng nanay niya, saan ipinanganak, at iba pang detalye, etc. ay pareho) at magkaroon siya ng problema naman sa PSA.

 

Ganito rin naman ang mangyayari pag yung 1989 ang ipinacorrect niya (lalabas rin sa computerized records ng PSA na dalawa ang birth certificate kung saan yung pangalan niya, pangalan ng nanay niya, pangalan ng tatay niya, saan ipinanganak, at iba pang detalye, etc. ay pareho).

 

As of now kasi, dahil walang sa 1989 record kung sino ang father niya, nakakalusot pa at di pa nahahalata sa records ng PSA na dalawa ang birth certificate niya.

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Wala ba sila sir na sinusunod na kung ano yun una na-file yun ang dapat sundin? Yun isa kasi sa Fabella siya pinanganak which is yun tama tapos yun sa 1991 eh sa hilot..

 

Any idea or lawyer sir na pwede namin kunin? Nagbabalak pa naman kami magpakasal next year at sana maayos agad

 

Yun last name kasi ng tatay niya ginagamit ever since tapos ngayon lang napansin yun ganito..

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Wala ba sila sir na sinusunod na kung ano yun una na-file yun ang dapat sundin? Yun isa kasi sa Fabella siya pinanganak which is yun tama tapos yun sa 1991 eh sa hilot..

 

Any idea or lawyer sir na pwede namin kunin? Nagbabalak pa naman kami magpakasal next year at sana maayos agad

 

Yun last name kasi ng tatay niya ginagamit ever since tapos ngayon lang napansin yun ganito..

Ang talagang rule diyan ay kung ano ang nauna, yun ang susundin. Kaya ang tamang proseso talaga ay ipakorek niya yung unang BC (para mailagay yung pangalan ng tatay niya). Pero mas mahirap nga ito dahil kailangan niyang patunayan kung sino talaga ang ama niya (dahil hindi siya kinilala ng ama niya sa mismong birth certificate).

 

Dahil nagpakasal naman later on yung magulang niya, subukan niyang pumunta sa Civil Registrar ng Manila at magtanong dun kung pupwede pa ang Affidavit of Legitimation lang para sa pagcorrect ng birth certificate niya (sabihin rin niya dun na ang makakagawa lang ng Affidavit of Legitimation ay ang nanay niya dahil patay na ang tatay niya).

 

NOTE: Ito ay baka sakali lang dahil baka hindi rin pumayag ang Civil Registrar, dahil nga hindi nakalagay sa birth certificate niya kung sino ang ama niya (hindi matibay na ebidensya ang affidavit lang ng nanay niya bilang patunay kung sino ang ama niya).

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hello po pa ask lang po, tungkol po sa death certificate, kahit sino po ba pued kumuha ng death certificate ng isang tao na namatay na? i mean are death certificates open to the public? also if complete name lang po ang known can the public get a certified photocopy on security paper ? without knowing the actual date of death?

 

thanks.

1. kahit sino po ba puede kumuha ng death certificate ng isang tao na namatay na? Technically, no. Documents relating to the status of persons, registered with the Civil Registrar, should be accessible only to the person himself, or his heirs/relatives. [Technically... kasi kung may kakilala ka, pwede mong makuha, pero hindi actually tama yun].

 

Also, sa online application, baka makalusot yung hindi kamag-anak ang nagre-request [di rin naman alam ng PSA kung kamag-anak ka o hindi pag nag-request ka online]

 

2. are death certificates open to the public? Per the earlier answer, these are not open to the public. They are public documents, but should properly not be obtainable by just about anyone.

 

3. if complete name lang po ang known can THE PUBLIC get a certified photocopy on security paper? Nope [see above answers].

 

4. Without knowing the actual date of death? Computerized na ang records ng PSA, so it should be possible for a relative/heir to request for a copy even if they do not know the actual date of death, but if the name is common, baka may kapareho [even with the middle name], so hindi mo rin masabi kung yun talaga yung namatay.

 

Note also that for online application of death certificates the PSA requires, among others, date of death, place of death, date of marriage. See https://civilregistration.psa.gov.ph/content/requesting-death-certificate

 

 

The best thing to do would be to call up the PSA help line and ask if this is possible with their system. Call: 926-7333/926-9973/926-7274

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Paano po ang gaagwin namin, gusto naming ikuha ng passport ang pamangkin kong 15 yrs. Old kaso patay na ang tatay niyana kapatid ko ang nanay naman niya hindi na namin alam kung nasaan na. Please anyone can help me salamat po

I think this is the one most analogous to your situation.(see also http://consular.dfa.gov.ph/passport/10-passport/64-passport-requirements-for-minor-new-applicants)

 

- If the applicant is an Illegitimate child and mother is deceased / absent and father is unknown

  • Personal Appearance of minor applicant and adult guardian
  • PSA Birth Certificate
  • Valid Passport or valid government ID* of adult guardian (click here for the List of Acceptable IDs for Passport Application)
  • DSWD Clearance
  • Affidavit of Guardianship
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Here's a question that is quite the reverse of most of the questions here.

 

A friend approached me seeking advice on how to impugn the validity of a birth certificate. The woman named in the birth certificate was actually adopted, but instead of going through the process of court adoption, the parents just registered the baby in their name. This was done back in the late '70's (so Old Civil Code coverage). It was common knowledge in the area and the family of the 'adoptive' parents that the woman was adopted. Now, both parents of the 'adopted' woman have died.

 

Question 1: Does the 'adopted' woman have a right to inherit by substitution of her parents?

 

Question 2: How do you impugn the validity of the birth certificate in this case? This is the basis of the woman's claim for inheritance. How do you overturn the presumption of regularity of governmental functions, in this case? No records exist of an adoption or even hospital records of the woman's birth except the simulated birth certificate.

 

Question 3: Puwede na ba ito pam bar exam sa Civil Law?

 

Your response would be most highly appreciated.

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Here's a question that is quite the reverse of most of the questions here.

 

A friend approached me seeking advice on how to impugn the validity of a birth certificate. The woman named in the birth certificate was actually adopted, but instead of going through the process of court adoption, the parents just registered the baby in their name. This was done back in the late '70's (so Old Civil Code coverage). It was common knowledge in the area and the family of the 'adoptive' parents that the woman was adopted. Now, both parents of the 'adopted' woman have died.

 

Question 1: Does the 'adopted' woman have a right to inherit by substitution of her parents?

 

Question 2: How do you impugn the validity of the birth certificate in this case? This is the basis of the woman's claim for inheritance. How do you overturn the presumption of regularity of governmental functions, in this case? No records exist of an adoption or even hospital records of the woman's birth except the simulated birth certificate.

 

Question 3: Puwede na ba ito pam bar exam sa Civil Law?

 

Your response would be most highly appreciated.

Question 1: Does the 'adopted' woman have a right to inherit by substitution of her parents?

 

Assuming the facts stated as true, since she is a mere ampon, she would have, theoretically, no right to inherit, not being related to the deceased.

 

Question 2: How do you impugn the validity of the birth certificate in this case? This is the basis of the woman's claim for inheritance. How do you overturn the presumption of regularity of governmental functions, in this case? No records exist of an adoption or even hospital records of the woman's birth except the simulated birth certificate.

 

file a case for cancellation of birth certificate, alleging, as ground therefor, that she is not a child of the deceased spouses (must be filed by a person who would be the heir of the spouses, if the ampon is so declared. See Babiera v. Catotal, 333 SCRA 487 - https://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri2000/jun2000/gr_138493_2000.html)

 

Or, file settlement of estate proceedings for the spouses, alleging that petitioner is the heir (to force the daughter to appear in court and claim to be the legitimate daughter. See Benitez-Badua v. CA, 229 SCRA 468. http://www.chanrobles.com/scdecisions/jurisprudence1994/jan1994/gr_105625_1994.php)

 

In both cases, you have to have evidence that she is not the natural child of the spouses (or force the Court to order a DNA test).

 

 

Question 3: Puwede na ba ito pam bar exam sa Civil Law?

 

No. too complex. had there been incontrovertible evidence that the woman is not really the child, Yes, pupwede.

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Question 1: Does the 'adopted' woman have a right to inherit by substitution of her parents?

 

Assuming the facts stated as true, since she is a mere ampon, she would have, theoretically, no right to inherit, not being related to the deceased.

 

Question 2: How do you impugn the validity of the birth certificate in this case? This is the basis of the woman's claim for inheritance. How do you overturn the presumption of regularity of governmental functions, in this case? No records exist of an adoption or even hospital records of the woman's birth except the simulated birth certificate.

 

file a case for cancellation of birth certificate, alleging, as ground therefor, that she is not a child of the deceased spouses (must be filed by a person who would be the heir of the spouses, if the ampon is so declared. See Babiera v. Catotal, 333 SCRA 487 - https://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri2000/jun2000/gr_138493_2000.html)

 

Or, file settlement of estate proceedings for the spouses, alleging that petitioner is the heir (to force the daughter to appear in court and claim to be the legitimate daughter. See Benitez-Badua v. CA, 229 SCRA 468. http://www.chanrobles.com/scdecisions/jurisprudence1994/jan1994/gr_105625_1994.php)

 

In both cases, you have to have evidence that she is not the natural child of the spouses (or force the Court to order a DNA test).

 

 

Question 3: Puwede na ba ito pam bar exam sa Civil Law?

 

No. too complex. had there been incontrovertible evidence that the woman is not really the child, Yes, pupwede.

 

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thanks a lot sir...

 

it's a bit more complicated. sole heir claimant ang ampon...

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Question 1: Does the 'adopted' woman have a right to inherit by substitution of her parents?

 

Assuming the facts stated as true, since she is a mere ampon, she would have, theoretically, no right to inherit, not being related to the deceased.

 

Question 2: How do you impugn the validity of the birth certificate in this case? This is the basis of the woman's claim for inheritance. How do you overturn the presumption of regularity of governmental functions, in this case? No records exist of an adoption or even hospital records of the woman's birth except the simulated birth certificate.

 

file a case for cancellation of birth certificate, alleging, as ground therefor, that she is not a child of the deceased spouses (must be filed by a person who would be the heir of the spouses, if the ampon is so declared. See Babiera v. Catotal, 333 SCRA 487 - https://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri2000/jun2000/gr_138493_2000.html)

 

Or, file settlement of estate proceedings for the spouses, alleging that petitioner is the heir (to force the daughter to appear in court and claim to be the legitimate daughter. See Benitez-Badua v. CA, 229 SCRA 468. http://www.chanrobles.com/scdecisions/jurisprudence1994/jan1994/gr_105625_1994.php)

 

In both cases, you have to have evidence that she is not the natural child of the spouses (or force the Court to order a DNA test).

 

 

Question 3: Puwede na ba ito pam bar exam sa Civil Law?

 

No. too complex. had there been incontrovertible evidence that the woman is not really the child, Yes, pupwede.

 

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thanks a lot sir...

 

it's a bit more complicated. sole heir claimant ang ampon...

 

wala man lang kapatid o pamangkin yung ,mga namatay?

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wala man lang kapatid o pamangkin yung ,mga namatay?

 

the 'adoptive' parents have seven other siblings. the 'adopted' is an unica hija now of legal age. claims she has rights of substitution over inheritance from her 'adoptive' parents by substitution and her claimed right is based on a certificate of live birth with her name as child and her 'adoptive parents' as natural parents.

 

salamat talaga sir.

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the 'adoptive' parents have seven other siblings. the 'adopted' is an unica hija now of legal age. claims she has rights of substitution over inheritance from her 'adoptive' parents by substitution and her claimed right is based on a certificate of live birth with her name as child and her 'adoptive parents' as natural parents.

 

salamat talaga sir.

the siblings of the "adoptive parents" can file the complaint, as they would be the ones to actually inherit.

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Hi all, if your naturalization paper "order" states that you were a Filipino by birth thus a cancellation of ACR is hereby granted, can you legally says in all government applications (passport, license, etc..) that you are a FILIPINO by birth and not Naturalized?

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Hi all, if your naturalization paper "order" states that you were a Filipino by birth thus a cancellation of ACR is hereby granted, can you legally says in all government applications (passport, license, etc..) that you are a FILIPINO by birth and not Naturalized?

 

 

Thank you sir rocco69, another question, is there a way to change my birth certificate to read that my mother citizenship is Filipino instead of other nationality? ( it was a mistake to put her as a Chinese).

Is your mother a Filipino citizen? Does her birth certificate state that she is a Filipino?

 

If your answer to both questions is Yes, then, indeed, there was a mistake in your birth certificate.

 

You can file an action for Correction of Entry in the Civil Registry under Rule 108 of the Rules of Court BUT YOU HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THE PROCEEDINGS ARE ADVERSARIAL. That means that you have to include as respondents in the case your mother herself, your father, ALL your siblings, as well as the CIVIL REGISTRAR (of the place where your birth certificate is registered), THE SOLICITOR GENERAL, AND THE PROVINCIAL/CITY PROSECUTOR (of the place where your birth certificate is registered).

 

If your mother is not actually a Filipino, you cannot correct your birth certificate. There is no mistake to correct.

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Hello - if anyone has any experience *directly* with being awarded a Quota Visa, please get in touch with me. I'd like to apply for one and understand that there are still some for US citizens being 'hoarded' for 2019.

 

If you are a 'dialed in' attorney or processor with a successful track record of gaining Quota Visas for clients, please also get in touch with me.

 

Thanks in advance!

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