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For me tama naman sinabi ni Santiago e. Ang problema is ano ang agenda niya? May na excite pa siyang nalalaman. Kung ang sinabi na lang niya is initial pa lang yan, at marami pa tayong ipapatayo edi sana walang problema. Just for the record, he has to remember, HE WORKS FOR THE PRESIDENT TO SERVE THE FILIPINO NATION.

Well kung ano man ang agenda niya pare-pareho nating hindi alam. Pero ikaw na nagsabi he works for the president to serve the filipino people. In other words hindi ba kapakanan ng taong bayan ang priority nilang dalawa ng presidente hindi kung ano ang ikatutuwa o ikagagalit ng pangulo ang primary consideration. Yan ang dapat na maging agenda niya lagi di po ba?

 

Having said that, agree naman tayo pareho na tama ang sinabi ni Santiago in that sense kung tama naman pala then bakit dapat pagdudahan ang agenda niya? Hindi ba kung talagang mali masama bang isiwalat sa publiko ang real score? Dapat ba i sugar coat para takpan ang presidente kung sakaling may mali? In doing that is he really serving the people or primarily working and serving the pleasure of the president.

 

Well hindi ba hindi siya sangayon nga sa mega rehab center bagkus maraming community based centers ang proposal niya. So kung ang original plan nila is makakuha ng 2500 na magparehab from nueva ecija and nearby provinces which is 25% occupancy rate of its total capacity e hindi nila nagawa what is the probability na gaganda ang occupancy rate ng mega rehab center na balak nilang itayo sa luZvimin kung wala naman silang ibang programa o parehong programa pa rin ang ipatutupad.

 

Btw may balita na ba kayo kailan balak ipatatayo ang mga ito? Personally i hear none o baka huli lang ako sa balita...so pwedeng pang "press release" lang ito. Isipin din natin wouldn't it be easier and faster to implement a project to build smaller rehab center than a mega rehab center? Ito ay sa angulo ng financial and logistics consideration.

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Well kung ano man ang agenda niya pare-pareho nating hindi alam. Pero ikaw na nagsabi he works for the president to serve the filipino people. In other words hindi ba kapakanan ng taong bayan ang priority nilang dalawa ng presidente hindi kung ano ang ikatutuwa o ikagagalit ng pangulo ang primary consideration. Yan ang dapat na maging agenda niya lagi di po ba?

Having said that, agree naman tayo pareho na tama ang sinabi ni Santiago in that sense kung tama naman pala then bakit dapat pagdudahan ang agenda niya? Hindi ba kung talagang mali masama bang isiwalat sa publiko ang real score? Dapat ba i sugar coat para takpan ang presidente kung sakaling may mali? In doing that is he really serving the people or primarily working and serving the pleasure of the president.

Well hindi ba hindi siya sangayon nga sa mega rehab center bagkus maraming community based centers ang proposal niya. So kung ang original plan nila is makakuha ng 2500 na magparehab from nueva ecija and nearby provinces which is 25% occupancy rate of its total capacity e hindi nila nagawa what is the probability na gaganda ang occupancy rate ng mega rehab center na balak nilang itayo sa luZvimin kung wala naman silang ibang programa o parehong programa pa rin ang ipatutupad.

Btw may balita na ba kayo kailan balak ipatatayo ang mga ito? Personally i hear none o baka huli lang ako sa balita...so pwedeng pang "press release" lang ito. Isipin din natin wouldn't it be easier and faster to implement a project to build smaller rehab center than a mega rehab center? Ito ay sa angulo ng financial and logistics consideration.

Havent heard any actually. Pero for me, the govt done their part, and its now for the patient to make the sacrifice at dun muna magpagamot. Wag nilang sasabihin na malayo or mahal pamasahe. Nung nag drugs nga sila nde naman nila inisip na mahal e hehe. The good thing that president is doing is his build build build. Para sa future natin din yan. And mas matapang na ang mga Pinoy na magreklamo sa palpak na serbisyo ng goverment. Hindi tulad dati. Tanggap na natin ang red tape, ang pa petiks petiks ng mga empleyado ng SSS. Part of it is because the president is endorsing it to make a complaint against abusive goverment employees. Ang ayaw ko namn sa presidente is, too much talking. Kesyo may pinatay siya dati, or may binaril siya dati. Those are nonsense at hindi nakakatulong sa bayan. You are the most powerful man in the country. ACT LIKE ONE. TALK LIKE ONE. Ung mga patama ni Trillanes, let him bark, dont stoop down like him. And dont endorse the killing. Kung gusto mong patayin mga pusher gawin mo, but dont brag it.

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Kung ang programa ng gobyerno sa drug rehab ng milyun-milyon na users ay nakasalalay lang sa kusang loob na pagpasok ng karamihan sa loob ng mega rehab center dahil the goverment has done it share to build it ... Good luck na lang sa success nito.

 

Sa marketing tinuro sa atin yun 4 Ps ... product, price, place, promo, na kung saan dapat tingnan at pagplanuhan ang bawa't isang aspeto. Yun gusto ninyong mangyari is like coming out with a great product (mega rehab center) and that's it since you think you've done your part then you expect people to just patronize it without considering/thinking of the other Ps like:

 

Place .... Location/accessibility or be where your market is. Hindi ba ninyo napansin ang banko parang kabuteng umusbong? Si we find ways halimbawa halos isang kanto lang pagitan may itinayong branch uli. Bakit hindi nila isipin eh isang kanto lang naman pagitan at dapat magsakripisyo ang mga depositors ko kasi within 5 min walking radius lang yan. Eh yun nga eh 5 min lang ang pagitan ayaw nilang mainconvenient ang depositor pero yun taga maynila expect mo pupunta ng nueva ecija? Another is right capacity/right sizing ... Why build for 10k when you can't even fill it up to a quarter of the capacity.

 

Price .... cost for the rehab, cost to go to the rehab, yun mawalay sa pamilya (yes hindi lang yun literal na $$$ but also what one needs to give up is the price to pay for)

 

Promo ... Yes you guys are missing this one out, kailangan hikayatin pa ninyo o kumbinsihin yun mamimili (drug users) na tangkilikin ang gusto ninyong ibenta (rehabilitation) ... in that sense sabi ko nga after tokhang ano na? Doon ba nagtatapos then next step eh expect na ninyo pupunta na yan kusa para magparehab? Umaasa kayo na alam nila masama ang droga sa kanila kaya titigil na sila? Dahil ano nanumpa sila na magbabago nun sumuko sa tokhang? Hahaha ... May pinagkaiba ba yan sa mga gentle manyaks na nanumpa sa simbahan na magiging tapat at wagas ang pagmamahalan nila ni mrs. pero nahuling may kabit o sideline kaya nangakong di na uulit at magbabago na. Ayun ilan kayang gentle manyaks ang tunay na naging totally faithful afterwards? In between there is still a lot of convincing to do. Kailangan hikayatin silang magbago and you need programs for that. No difference sa iwas paputok tuwing December. Alam naman natin lahat na delikado ang magpaputok kaya dapat lang tigilan na and yet people still do and it causes accidents. So every year may paalala ang gobyerno, pinapakita nila ano ang posibleng mangyari kung maaksidente, they not only tell people to stop but they are actually selling the idea. Ayun kahit papaano bumababa ang bilang ng nagpapaputok/nabibiktima ng paputok.

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Kaya nga poor planning ang nangyari...lumalabas ngayon dapat may ganito o ganyan gawin which most likely did not come into consideration during the initial planning and execution phase.

 

Mabuti at nabanggit mo din ang kakulangan at kahinaan ng wod. Its not as rosy as some die hard would project it to be

 

As usual, para sa yo, wala namang magandang magagawa ang Duterte administration, unlike your idol Abnoy - the epitome of professional management and good governance.

 

You conveniently forgot that the Mega Rehab Center was a donation of the Chinese government. It was designed from the point of view of the Chinese. They always build it BIG.

 

The Duterte administration accepted the donation and courtesy dictates that we should show gratitude for it.

 

Santiago may have a good point to say that drug rehab facilities should be smaller but spread out to more locations around the country. But he's not smart enough not to whine publicly and instead take the donation and make the most out if it. He deserves to be fired. Even he admitted to that.

 

The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have -- Vince Lombardi

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As usual, para sa yo, wala namang magandang magagawa ang Duterte administration, unlike your idol Abnoy - the epitome of professional management and good governance.

 

You conveniently forgot that the Mega Rehab Center was a donation of the Chinese government. It was designed from the point of view of the Chinese. They always build it BIG.

 

The Duterte administration accepted the donation and courtesy dictates that we should show gratitude for it.

 

Santiago may have a good point to say that drug rehab facilities should be smaller but spread out to more locations around the country. But he's not smart enough not to whine publicly and instead take the donation and make the most out if it. He deserves to be fired. Even he admitted to that.

 

The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have -- Vince Lombardi

Good point there.

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As usual, para sa yo, wala namang magandang magagawa ang Duterte administration, unlike your idol Abnoy - the epitome of professional management and good governance.

 

You conveniently forgot that the Mega Rehab Center was a donation of the Chinese government. It was designed from the point of view of the Chinese. They always build it BIG.

 

The Duterte administration accepted the donation and courtesy dictates that we should show gratitude for it.

 

Santiago may have a good point to say that drug rehab facilities should be smaller but spread out to more locations around the country. But he's not smart enough not to whine publicly and instead take the donation and make the most out if it. He deserves to be fired. Even he admitted to that.

 

The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have -- Vince Lombardi

Mali ka diyan...ok ako sa war on drugs di ako ok sa pamamaraan ng ejk. Ok ako na magkaroon ng rehab program ang gobyerno pero di ako ok na di nila pinagplanuhan o pinagisipan maige kung ano ba ang tamang logistics requirement para sa rehab program. Ang hirap sa iyo basta may ginawa si du30 gusto mo mainit na tanggapin regardless of. Para lang yan kung nagsaing si duterte para sa iyo dapat kainin natin lahat eh paano kakainin kung sunog o hilaw yun sinaing? ipagpipilitan mong kainin pa rin? Bottomline is that we both agree that Santiago's proposal is better than what was already implemented.

 

May nagsasabi ba na we should not be grateful to the donor? Sino? Ang alam kong sinasabi is dapat pinagplanuhan maige ang pagpapatayo. Bongga nga eh di naman well utilized. Mas maganda kahit simple lang pero well utilized at madami ang gumagamit para sa ikatatagumpay ng laban kontra droga.

 

Incidentally, i ain't surprise to see you defending the president but please get your facts straight before you even argue. The mega rehab center was funded through a donation of Huang Rulun and not the chinese gov't. So therefore to say/argue that they always build it Big as it was designed on the point of view of the chinese is questionable if not outright baseless. Was it huang who pinpointed nueva ecija to be the location? Was he the one that decided that it should have a capacity of 10000? Did he specifically said the donation should only be spent on one rehab center?

 

Oh and btw the donor is currently being investigated in China for bribery just to let you know. So kita mo more or less sino friends ni Digong at alam mo naman ang kasabihan na tell me who your friends are and i will tell you who you are...

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Nga pala, Abnoy achieved 7.3% GDP growth rate on his 2nd year of his term. Enewei Good job. I'm hoping na higitan pa ni duterturd ang na-achieve ni abnoy. kahit paano kasi makikinabang ang lahat.

 

 

Oo nga eh sana nga ma higitan nya yung kay Abnoy lalo na 3rd Qtr. palang nang 1st year ng term nya. Good job talaga at tama ka na makikinabang ang lahat.

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Nga pala, Abnoy achieved 7.3% GDP growth rate on his 2nd year of his term. Enewei Good job. I'm hoping na higitan pa ni duterturd ang na-achieve ni abnoy. kahit paano kasi makikinabang ang lahat.

 

 

Oo nga eh sana nga ma higitan nya yung kay Abnoy lalo na 3rd Qtr. palang nang 1st year ng term nya. Good job talaga at tama ka na makikinabang ang lahat.

 

Pero may mga tao na mas gustong mag fail si Du30 even at the expense of the country para lang may mai rant lang dito.

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Ang saya ano? Kapag si Abnoy ang may mali abot langit ang pagsumpa nila dito. Pero kapag si LODI, KERI LANG.

Ang problema kasi pag may ginawang mabuti gusto nila sumama ka sa pagbibigay papuri sa diyos diyosan nila. Pag hindi ka sumamba kalaban ang tingin sa iyo.

 

Pag nega hirit mo ang reklamo nila is bakit puro angal at hindi magbigay ng constructive criticism. Pag nag constructive criticism naman sasabihin para sa iyo wala na ginawang tama ang presidente.

 

halbawa etong decoupling issue ng mrt may nakita ka bang pro duterte na nagbigay ng constructive criticism? Aba'y parang ni hindi nga nila gustong matalakay yan. This morning narinig ko yun interview ng isang opisyales sa dotr about the docoupling issue...ang bungad ba naman we are not pointing fingers here sabay banat na we know about the maintenance issues during the past admin. yah hindi ka nga into finger pointing. Kala ko ba sabotahe ang tinitingnan ninyong anggulo? Hindi ba niya alam na sabi at pagmamalaki ni usec chavez na they promise accountability. Aba'y diba ngayong sila na humawak ng maintenance sabi nila bago palabasin ng train eh iniinspection nila ito ng maige para un mga may problema maayos at kung hindi di na palalabasin. Ang observation ko lang yun negligence/incompetence angle was never considered. Di ba sa imbestigasyon all angles must be considered?

 

Samantalang any good news big deal always. Malala pa nito may taong kung anu-ano ang naiisip para mai-link at makagawa ng positivity kay digong eh sa totoo lang sobrang pilit naman naiisip. Lol ... para siyang nabubuhay sa mundo ng kahibangan.

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Sumakay ako MRT kanina and honestly mas masahol pa kumpara last year. Kasalanan pa din kaya ni Pnoy yun? Naisip ko lang, dilawan ba ako o distabilizer kung sinasabi ko nakikita ko.

"Nakikita" mo? Sasabihin nila hindi totoo yan kasi "blind" follower ka. Lol

 

 

Shhhhhh .... Payo ko Wag ka masyadong nagiingay sa pagrereklamo. Bawal yan at di mo iginagalang si du30. Kung may mali gusto niya sa kanya mo lang ibulong hindi yun magiingay ka sa press o sa social media.

 

 

Sabi nga ng isang imbecile #respect ....hahaha kaya nga gumagawa siya ng kung anu-anong istorya para maipakita lang nirerespeto si lodi petmalu.

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"Nakikita" mo? Sasabihin nila hindi totoo yan kasi "blind" follower ka. Lol

 

 

Shhhhhh .... Payo ko Wag ka masyadong nagiingay sa pagrereklamo. Bawal yan at di mo iginagalang si du30. Kung may mali gusto niya sa kanya mo lang ibulong hindi yun magiingay ka sa press o sa social media.

 

 

Sabi nga ng isang imbecile #respect ....hahaha kaya nga gumagawa siya ng kung anu-anong istorya para maipakita lang nirerespeto si lodi petmalu.

 

Its how you posts kaya may nagrereklamo. Kaya nga na warningan kayo ni Madam FDL diba?

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Have you seen the rehab center? How do you propose na hatiin ang usage nito physically?

Sa nakita ko kasi isang compound yan na may madaming "housing". They probably share common facilities. Hindi lang naman confined sa loob ng housing ang mga patient. I suppose ganun din ang sitwasyon para sa isang kulungan hindi naman sila confined to their cells lagi.

In other words pwede ba at tama bang ipagsama ang pagreporma ng isang criminal sa isang user.

Gusto ko lang ma enlighten.

Its how you posts kaya may nagrereklamo. Kaya nga na warningan kayo ni Madam FDL diba?

Really? Well siguro depende kung sino ang kausap kung bakit kailangan ganun sumagot.

 

Anyway instead na problemahin mo ito at panibagong issue na naman bubuksan mo bakit di mo kaya sagutin muna yun nakabinbin kong tanong sa panukala mo.

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Hirap i-respeto ang tao na hindi marunong rumespeto ano?

 

 

 

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sa mga nagsasabi na mas maganda ang present admin sa past admin.

 

Dapat lang mas mahigitan pa ng present admin ang past admin. Dahil kapag ang present admin eh hindi nahigitan ang past admin eh nagsayang lang ng boto ang 16million followers ni duterturd.

Well said. Don't compare the two. Im really disappointed in the past admin. Im not really sure if his brain is working or not sometimes. Actually ny expectation with this admin is very high. Right now I could say he is still in the passing grade. Pasang awa ika nga.

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Hirap i-respeto ang tao na hindi marunong rumespeto ano?

 

 

 

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sa mga nagsasabi na mas maganda ang present admin sa past admin.

 

Dapat lang mas mahigitan pa ng present admin ang past admin. Dahil kapag ang present admin eh hindi nahigitan ang past admin eh nagsayang lang ng boto ang 16million followers ni duterturd.

Well tama yan sinabi mo ... Parang ganito lang yan, sa iba sasabihin nila halimbawa bakit palagi kang nega samantalang wala naman silang ibang bukang bibig kundi puros positives naman sa pangulo. Yan yun mga hardcore pro Duterte. Sa totoo lang yun mga reklamo lagi ng mga nasa grupong ito dun sa mga ginagawa supposedly ng mga dilawan eh ganun din naman ginagawa nila pero di nila nakikita ang sarili nilang pinaggagawa.

 

At essentially dalwang klase ang hardcore pro duterte ngayon ... The original 16m (kung hindi pa ito nalagas) who voted for him and yun mga "bandwagoners" eto un mga anti PNoy forever na di naman si Duterte na ang binoto pero ngayon eh maka-duterte na rin dahil nga talo ang manok nila. Tapos nandiyan din naman din ang mga taong sumusuporta na lang kasi tanggap naman nila na siya na ang pangulo. Kung pagsasamahin mo ang lahat ng ito, ito yun komposisyon kung bakit napakalaking percentage ng pilipino ang nainiwala sa pangulong duterte sa simula. Ngunit kung makikita natin ngayon bumababa na ang bilang nito specially dun sa isyu kung sa tingin ba nila kaya ng pangulo maideliver ang mga pangako nito. Sa tingin ko ito'y dahil nagbago ang tingin nun mga nasa 3rd group.

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Well said. Don't compare the two. Im really disappointed in the past admin. Im not really sure if his brain is working or not sometimes. Actually ny expectation with this admin is very high. Right now I could say he is still in the passing grade. Pasang awa ika nga.

Were you disappointed with the PNoy admin just one year into his presidency?

 

If you had very high expectations initially and suddenly it drop to moderate expectations in just a year's time what does it tells you on your confidence level on his ability to deliver?

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Even a former dilawan like myself was sooooo disappointed with Pnoy even before when he was just in congress and senate for that matter what more when he became president. All i remember about his presidency is "anti wang-wang". Too much difference in a 1 year period for duterte, don't turn blind, deaf and s*****.

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Even a former dilawan like myself was sooooo disappointed with Pnoy even before when he was just in congress and senate for that matter what more when he became president. All i remember about his presidency is "anti wang-wang". Too much difference in a 1 year period for duterte, don't turn blind, deaf and s*****.

I think the proper word is dislike not disappointed.

 

You never had hopes nor expectations on him to begin with when he became president to be disappointed.

 

Did you remember our gdp was over 7% within his second year in office? Were you happy then? Not a lot of people remember and make a big deal of that but many are ecstatic that we achieved 6.9% just recently under digong. Did anyone care to look into what he did solely for us to achieve that 6.9% ... lahat ba ng credit goes to him? could it be possible that yun iba naman ay mga programang ipinagpatuloy mula sa nakaraang admin?

 

What about the numerous credit rating upgrades we got during the term of the past admin bec of how they handled our fiscal and monetary policy that lead to a lower intetest rate scenario/environment? Dahil dito the business sector was able to take advantage of lower cost of money to finance expansions which help in the growth of the nation. Does anyone remembers? Pinansin ba ng masa yan in the first place?

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I think the proper word is dislike not disappointed.

 

You never had hopes nor expectations on him to begin with when he became president to be disappointed.

 

Did you remember our gdp was over 7% within his second year in office? Were you happy then? Not a lot of people remember and make a big deal of that but many are ecstatic that we achieved 6.9% just recently under digong. Did anyone care to look into what he did solely for us to achieve that 6.9% ... lahat ba ng credit goes to him? could it be possible that yun iba naman ay mga programang ipinagpatuloy mula sa nakaraang admin?

 

Maganda naman yung 7% GDP growth rate ni Pnoy. So we are all happy na na achieve na yun. Pero itong 6.9 ngayon ware you happy about it? Konti lang naman ang difference. And yung sinasabi mong possible naman programa ng nakaraang admin yung pwede naman yun ang nagyari so its the same question din sa last admin. Posible din naman na GMA admin ang nakatulog sa 7% GDP growth diba?

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I think the proper word is dislike not disappointed.

You never had hopes nor expectations on him to begin with when he became president to be disappointed.

Did you remember our gdp was over 7% within his second year in office? Were you happy then? Not a lot of people remember and make a big deal of that but many are ecstatic that we achieved 6.9% just recently under digong. Did anyone care to look into what he did solely for us to achieve that 6.9% ... lahat ba ng credit goes to him? could it be possible that yun iba naman ay mga programang ipinagpatuloy mula sa nakaraang admin?

What about the numerous credit rating upgrades we got during the term of the past admin bec of how they handled our fiscal and monetary policy that lead to a lower intetest rate scenario/environment? Dahil dito the business sector was able to take advantage of lower cost of money to finance expansions which help in the growth of the nation. Does anyone remembers? Pinansin ba ng masa yan in the first place?

Your question about pinansin ng masa yan? Ang question is mapapansin ba ng masa yan? GDP growth in the 2nd year of Pnoy? One could attribute it kay GMA for that matter same as for the 6.7 of dutertz ngayun. One must talk about inclusive growth in order for the "masa" to get into the equation. I'm quite sure 1 "accomplishment" you say here - dutertards will equal it with 10 or maybe more. JFK and daphne post quite a lot of them yet rather anti dutertz people rather post one liner troll statements with matching ad hominems without substance whatsoever.

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Maganda naman yung 7% GDP growth rate ni Pnoy. So we are all happy na na achieve na yun. Pero itong 6.9 ngayon ware you happy about it? Konti lang naman ang difference. And yung sinasabi mong possible naman programa ng nakaraang admin yung pwede naman yun ang nagyari so its the same question din sa last admin. Posible din naman na GMA admin ang nakatulog sa 7% GDP growth diba?

Did you see me complaining or feeling unhappy about it?

 

Now this is a classic case as you said why people like me get into trouble with the admin ... there are people like you trying to join the fray but don't get kung ano ba yun punto ng pinaguusapan tapos kung saan saan dadalhin. Like asking di ka ba masaya on the 6.9% gdp.

 

Yun context is given na na achieve din naman ni PNoy yun mataas na GDP in fact higher pa nga di ba may nakaalala ba nun? Kasi sabi nga wala naman naalalang nagawa daw si PNoy. Si duterte ang galing! And yes maaring PNoy was also reaping the benefits of the previous admin in fact not only from pgma. still does not change the premise kung walang ginawa eh di duterte won't reap anything from the previous admin. Common sense lang yun. Pero hindi ba na cite ko yun ginawang fiscal and monetary policy to prove kahit paano may nagawa but definitely di napansin. Ilan ba sa mga masa nakakaintindi kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng mga policies na yan.

 

Btw may pending question ako sa iyo abt dun sa proposal mo on the mega rehab center. Tagal na ako naghihintay to be enlightened by you. Paki lang pls.

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Did you see me complaining or feeling unhappy about it?

 

 

Btw may pending question ako sa iyo abt dun sa proposal mo on the mega rehab center. Tagal na ako naghihintay to be enlightened by you. Paki lang pls.

 

That's why I asked para sigurado di ba kung ano ang saloobion mo. Baka sabihin mo nag aasume naman ako.

 

On the mega rehab,anything physical can be renovated on its intended purpose. HIndi naman complicated ang infra na ginawa doon. Kaya na yan ng mga architect and engineers natin dito.

HIndi naman total waste yung mega rehab center, kung ako mag TVC sila ng successful rehab patient para maka entice na magpa rehab dito.

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