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#21 Dr_PepPeR

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Posted 20 August 2007 - 09:22 PM

i don't know where to post this..

ano po bang ibigsabihin pag my binebentang bahay at lupa pero rights lang daw? ano yung rights lang? i hope someone can explain.. thanks!

kasi parang government property po yata yun.


If it is government property, then a private individual cannot sell it since he/she does not own the property in the first place. However, the government may grant the use of its property to individuals or corporations, through a lease or usufruct. But of course, there must be a basis for this, like a law or a contract. I'd say to handle something like this with caution, as it is more likely that the seller may actually be a squatter.

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Posted 21 August 2007 - 01:34 PM

ah ok.. so parang kahit bilhin ko pala yung rights na yun, hindi pa rin sakin yung property.. hmm mahirap pala yun.

thanks for the info Dr. Pepper :)

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 10:48 AM

i don't know where to post this..

ano po bang ibigsabihin pag my binebentang bahay at lupa pero rights lang daw? ano yung rights lang? i hope someone can explain.. thanks!

kasi parang government property po yata yun.



kapag RIGHTS lang, chances are, these are professional squatters selling portions of the squatted land. you won't get any title.

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Posted 05 September 2007 - 11:11 AM

my understanding is that the title will never be under your name until you pay the remaining debt of the seller or like he said a professional squatter for example in taguig who sells you land but you will never get the title, kase nga government owns it..masakit sa ulo yan

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 10:54 PM

Sir paano kung ganito ang scenario naghatian na ng lupa ang magkakapatid then plan ng isang kapatid is ipatitulo na ang lupa kaso hindi pa nababayaran ang inheritance tax for so many years.

Ano dapat gawin nung tao para matitle na sa kanya yung lupa?

The tax thing paano ba ang bayad? hinati na kasi yung lupa?

Then meron such term na 'amnesty' sa ganito scenario? at meron bang such thing na 'amnesty'?

Bukod sa inheritance tax ano pa bang mga babayaran pa nung tao?

Kailangan pa ba ng attorney sa ganito scenario?

Then kung magpapatitulo kailangan pa bang pasukat uli ang lupa kahit na dalawang bese na sinukat ang lupa.


Thanks..

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 05:57 PM

Your problem would be, by the time that you will pay the aforementioned taxes, the BIR will already charge you with interest, surcharges and penalty (in addition to the 7.5% you have to pay) kasi overdue na yung taxes. deadline in paying for the capital gains tax is at least 1 month from the date of the sale, while for the doc stamps, 5th day of the following month. kaya habang pinapatagal mo pagbabayad, mas lumalaki taxes not unless both of you would execute a new deed of sale.


Bro, your advise needed:
My younger brother bought a townhouse unit on Oct 2000; but was not able to pay the CGT thereafter; my understanding is that the seller should shoulder paying the CGT, but nothing mentioned on their deed of sale; he wont get new deed of sale coz the seller already migrated to Canada after completing the deed of sale; can my brother sell the property and execute new deed of sale so he can skip the remaining unpaid period? is this transaction VATable?
Thanks! :rolleyes:

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 08:18 AM

Sir paano kung ganito ang scenario naghatian na ng lupa ang magkakapatid then plan ng isang kapatid is ipatitulo na ang lupa kaso hindi pa nababayaran ang inheritance tax for so many years.

Ano dapat gawin nung tao para matitle na sa kanya yung lupa?

The tax thing paano ba ang bayad? hinati na kasi yung lupa?

Then meron such term na 'amnesty' sa ganito scenario? at meron bang such thing na 'amnesty'?

Bukod sa inheritance tax ano pa bang mga babayaran pa nung tao?

Kailangan pa ba ng attorney sa ganito scenario?

Then kung magpapatitulo kailangan pa bang pasukat uli ang lupa kahit na dalawang bese na sinukat ang lupa.
Thanks..

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Kailangan nyo muna bayaran estate tax para makakuha Certificate Authorizing Registration from BIR. Problema sa estate tax hinde lang yang lupa na yan kailangan ilagay, kailangan din ibaiba pang ariarian ng pinagmanahan ninyo dahil ang estate tax schedule ay graduated, masmalaki ariarian na naiwan, masmalaki rate of estate tax. Yang paghatihati ninyo, may requirements din yan bago makapagextrajudicial partition tulad ng pagpost sa dyaryo. Kakailangan talaga kayo abogado dahil sya magdraft extrajudicial partition ninyo. Pagnakakuha na CAR sa BIR, puro sa municipyo na ibang requirements, tulad ng certification of payment of real property taxes at transfer tax payments, madali dali na mga yon. Siempre, kailangan rin magbigay techinical descriptions ng paghatihatian na lupa para malagay ng Register of Deeds sa TCT pag sinubdivide ito.

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 10:54 AM

Kailangan nyo muna bayaran estate tax para makakuha Certificate Authorizing Registration from BIR. Problema sa estate tax hinde lang yang lupa na yan kailangan ilagay, kailangan din ibaiba pang ariarian ng pinagmanahan ninyo dahil ang estate tax schedule ay graduated, masmalaki ariarian na naiwan, masmalaki rate of estate tax. Yang paghatihati ninyo, may requirements din yan bago makapagextrajudicial partition tulad ng pagpost sa dyaryo. Kakailangan talaga kayo abogado dahil sya magdraft extrajudicial partition ninyo. Pagnakakuha na CAR sa BIR, puro sa municipyo na ibang requirements, tulad ng certification of payment of real property taxes at transfer tax payments, madali dali na mga yon. Siempre, kailangan rin magbigay techinical descriptions ng paghatihatian na lupa para malagay ng Register of Deeds sa TCT pag sinubdivide ito.


Thanks sa tip dun sir.
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 09:20 AM

Guys,
Help me naman, for transfer of Title, ano ba nag tamang procedure? ito po ang scenario.

Nabili ko po ang lupa sa Cavite na nakapangalan kay ex: Pedro Santos married to Mila Santos, meron na kaming deed of sale at special power of Attorney na lilipat na sa akin ang title lahat ng documents na sa akin na (original Title at mga dockumentong galing sa National Home mortgage. Nabayaran ko na rin ang lahat tax na kailangan, ibig sabihin cleared na ako sa BIR. Ang problema patay na pala itong si Mila ang asawa ng seller. Naibigay ko na din ang NSO death certificate, at special power of attorney na wala ng maghahabol pati ang anak pina pirma sa SPA. Napa publish na rin namin sa dyaryo na tiong lupa na ito ay ibinenta sa akin, bale 1 month na naka publish. Nang ipapasa na namin sa Registry of Deeds, hinihingan pa kami ng certification na katunayan na wala ng ibang property itong si Mila sa probinsiya at may babayaran pa daw kami sa land reform. Ang tanong ko po ano po ba talaga ang procedure dito? Ano pong koneksiyon ng ibang property ni Mila sa binibili kong lupa sa Cavite? Gaano po ba katagal ang transfer of Title sa RD. Maraming salamat po sana po maliwanagan po ninyo ako sa problemang ito.

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 04:40 PM

a follow up question ...

I have a friend who wanted to buy a piece of land na awarded ... it has a TCT however may encumbrances na di pdeng i mortgaged, transfer nor sell within the period of 20 years ... naka 19 years na kc ang lumipas and I think 1 year n lang eh lapse na yung encumbrances ...

question is, can I buy the land? safe bang bilhin yun? definitely ba yung encumbrances eh pde mawala after 20 years or may idadagdag pa dun? ano ano yung downside nun?

ang upside kc ... pde ko syang baratin ng konti
TIA

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 12:24 AM

Guys,
Help me naman, for transfer of Title, ano ba nag tamang procedure? ito po ang scenario.

Nabili ko po ang lupa sa Cavite na nakapangalan kay ex: Pedro Santos married to Mila Santos, meron na kaming deed of sale at special power of Attorney na lilipat na sa akin ang title lahat ng documents na sa akin na (original Title at mga dockumentong galing sa National Home mortgage. Nabayaran ko na rin ang lahat tax na kailangan, ibig sabihin cleared na ako sa BIR. Ang problema patay na pala itong si Mila ang asawa ng seller. Naibigay ko na din ang NSO death certificate, at special power of attorney na wala ng maghahabol pati ang anak pina pirma sa SPA. Napa publish na rin namin sa dyaryo na tiong lupa na ito ay ibinenta sa akin, bale 1 month na naka publish. Nang ipapasa na namin sa Registry of Deeds, hinihingan pa kami ng certification na katunayan na wala ng ibang property itong si Mila sa probinsiya at may babayaran pa daw kami sa land reform. Ang tanong ko po ano po ba talaga ang procedure dito? Ano pong koneksiyon ng ibang property ni Mila sa binibili kong lupa sa Cavite? Gaano po ba katagal ang transfer of Title sa RD. Maraming salamat po sana po maliwanagan po ninyo ako sa problemang ito.


Actually the proper procedure to to have Pedro Santos and the children (if they are of legal age) to execute a Deed of Extrajudicial Partition and follow the steps outlined in one of the posts above. If an SPA was really executed by Mila Santos, it automatically lost its validity upon her death. Once the estate tax is paid then the heirs of Mila Santos can now execute the Deed of Sale in your favor.

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 12:29 AM

a follow up question ...

I have a friend who wanted to buy a piece of land na awarded ... it has a TCT however may encumbrances na di pdeng i mortgaged, transfer nor sell within the period of 20 years ... naka 19 years na kc ang lumipas and I think 1 year n lang eh lapse na yung encumbrances ...

question is, can I buy the land? safe bang bilhin yun? definitely ba yung encumbrances eh pde mawala after 20 years or may idadagdag pa dun? ano ano yung downside nun?

ang upside kc ... pde ko syang baratin ng konti
TIA


Better to be safe than sorry. Why not just execute a contract to sell first (with earnest money) and have the seller sign an undated Deed of Absolute Sale and let you keep the title or put it under escrow? Technically, you can't purchase the property until the 20 years have expired, and since there is only one year left, just register the Deed of Absolute Sale then.

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 01:39 PM

that's also what I am thinking ... salamat sa advice Dr.

Better to be safe than sorry. Why not just execute a contract to sell first (with earnest money) and have the seller sign an undated Deed of Absolute Sale and let you keep the title or put it under escrow? Technically, you can't purchase the property until the 20 years have expired, and since there is only one year left, just register the Deed of Absolute Sale then.



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Posted 15 November 2007 - 01:41 PM

Dr. pepper ... sa application registration ba klangan yung seller ang pipirma? that's form 1902 yata ...

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 12:09 AM

Dr. pepper ... sa application registration ba klangan yung seller ang pipirma? that's form 1902 yata ...


Not necessarily. The one who signs the application will be the only authorized person to receive the processed documents.

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 12:25 AM

Sadly, you hear time and again that it is very easy to forge documents here in the Philippines particularly land titles kaya proceed with due diligence.

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Posted 22 November 2007 - 07:36 AM

Dr. pepper,
Salamat po na marami...... :thumbsupsmiley:

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 12:42 PM

hi folks,

i need your advice on this situation:

our neighbor used our wall located at the rear of our residence as part of their house. maybe it was because they did not have the money to construct their own. to make matters worse noise easily penetrated to our once peaceful home. its quite annoying.

my questions are:

1. is there any law which I can quote that prevents this?
2. what should i do? i was planning to resolve this through the barangay hall.
3. what are my other rights?

thank you.

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 12:09 PM

If your wall is within the boundaries of your real estate and your neighbor made use of that wall as part of their house, that means your neighbor is encroaching your property. In which case, you can go to the barangay to settle the issue about property boundaries. If your neighbor is causing noise which is a total nuisance, you can also go to the barangay and file a complaint for abatement of private nuisance. In any case, if nothing good comes out of your barangay complaint, you can go to Court to file a civil case for abatement (in the case of the excessive noise) or ejectment (for that part of their house which intruded your property). In both cases, you can ask for the reward of consequential damages (moral damage, actual damage, exemplary damage and litigation expenses). This is what is commonly known as danyos perhuwisyo.

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 08:28 AM

it seems like a good idea.

maybe the barangay officials can settle the issue.




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