Poll: Bongbong Marcos Vs Leni Robredo

[rooster69ph]

You would not wet ballots if you really thought you won.

So true ...

 

Leni firmly believe she won fair and square. Thus unlikely she had a hand on that unless you said otherwise and can provide solid evidences.

[rooster69ph]

Mag sasample ka lang kasi palpak pa eh. Sino nga ba dapat ang unang pagbintangan? Bahala ang SC concerened mag investigate since may nakitang abnormalities.

 

 

Aba hindi ko kasalanan kung hindi mo naintindihan o iba pala iniisip mo sa pinupunto ko (as always) at you started to fire away. simple lang naman ang tanong sa example eh...just because nakitang nagtatalo yun dalawa eh sigurado ka na yun isa ang pumatay o pinaghihinalaan mo lang? again paghinala vs panigurado. ganun lang ka-simple ang pinaguusapan.

 

kaso mga marcostards ang panay ang sigaw na may daya dahil nabasa. hinala lang ba ito??? natural. Ang sabi ko nga allegations lang yan need magbigay ng proof para paniwalaan ng korte. Hindi sufficient un nag conclude na guity just because sa hinala pero walang pruweba. pero ang sagot nga hindi na nga daw kailangan ipinpoint sino ang may tunay na kagagawan di na need ng proof.

 

so anong mali sa example? sino ba ang dapat pagbintangan? ang turo ng magulang ko sa akin wag basta basta mambintang kung di ka nakakasigurado. so unless may matibay na pruweba wag mambintang. ewan ko kung paano ka pinalaki at ano ang itinuro sa iyo

Yun lang un.

Edited April 11, 2018 by rooster69ph

[haroots2]

 

 

Aba hindi ko kasalanan kung hindi mo naintindihan o iba pala iniisip mo sa pinupunto ko (as always) at you started to fire away. simple lang naman ang tanong sa example eh...just because nakitang nagtatalo yun dalawa eh sigurado ka na yun isa ang pumatay o pinaghihinalaan mo lang? again paghinala vs panigurado. ganun lang ka-simple ang pinaguusapan.

 

kaso mga marcostards ang panay ang sigaw na may daya dahil nabasa. hinala lang ba ito??? natural. Ang sabi ko nga allegations lang yan need magbigay ng proof para paniwalaan ng korte. Hindi sufficient un nag conclude na guity just because sa hinala pero walang pruweba. pero ang sagot nga hindi na nga daw kailangan ipinpoint sino ang may tunay na kagagawan di na need ng proof.

 

so anong mali sa example? sino ba ang dapat pagbintangan? ang turo ng magulang ko sa akin wag basta basta mambintang kung di ka nakakasigurado. so unless may matibay na pruweba wag mambintang. ewan ko kung paano ka pinalaki at ano ang itinuro sa iyo

Yun lang un.

 

Oo nga no tama ka siguro, ang galing mo kasi eh. Naisip ko baka si Honasan nga yung nandaya para makahabol.

[rooster69ph]

 

Oo nga no tama ka siguro, ang galing mo kasi eh. Naisip ko baka si Honasan nga yung nandaya para makahabol.

Ikaw na nagsabi earlier dun sa example dapat imbestigahan muna. Kumbaga yun pulis na binanggit mo ba iisang anggulo lang ang titingnan? Naturamente hindi. Lahat ng posibleng pangyayari titingnan nang matagpuang patay. Pwedeng pinatay ng kaaway, pwedeng nagpakamatay pwedeng natural ang cause of death like inatake sa puso. Pero sa iyo hinala mo agad yun kaaway ang pumatay dahil lang sa sinabi kong natagpuang patay at paninindigan mo na yun hinala mo na siya ang pumatay eh solido? Hindi ba dapat sa imbestigasyon ma rule out muna yun dalawang possible cause of death. Kung may ebidensiya na pinatay o foul play then that is the only time na pwede mong maging suspect un nakaaway the day before.

 

Sa kaso ng basang balota sa pananaw ko tatlong anggulo yan. Una talagang nabasa. Ikalawa binasa dahil nandaya kampo ni leni at ikatlo binasa ng kampo ni bbm para palabasin na may pandarayang naganap kahit wala at gagamitin niya ito to his advantage.

 

As such to be fair to both parties importante na malaman sino may kagagawan. At this point ang pinagtatakahan ko wala pang basehan pero convinced na marcostards na nadaya??? Yan ang mas magagaling.

[darksoulriver]

Sa kaso ng basang balota sa pananaw ko tatlong anggulo yan. Una talagang nabasa. Ikalawa binasa dahil nandaya kampo ni leni at ikatlo binasa ng kampo ni bbm para palabasin na may pandarayang naganap kahit wala at gagamitin niya ito to his advantage.

 

 

 

to point this out... when the ballot box was opened at nakita na basa yung mga balota may alibi na agad si Atty. Macalintal.. binagyo daw!

 

this ballot box is galing sa balwarte ni VP Robredo so bakit mo babasain kung wla kng dapat itago

 

at kung si BBM naman ang gagawa nun mas malaking dagok kaya yun sa Electoral protest nya hahaha

 

 

isa lng dpat gisihin dyan si Ex Comelec Commissioner Bautista dahil sya ang nakakaalam!

Edited April 12, 2018 by darksoulriver

[rooster69ph]

to point this out... when the ballot box was opened at nakita na basa yung mga balota may alibi na agad si Atty. Macalintal.. binagyo daw!

 

this ballot box is galing sa balwarte ni VP Robredo so bakit mo babasain kung wla kng dapat itago

 

at kung si BBM naman ang gagawa nun mas malaking dagok kaya yun sa Electoral protest nya hahaha

 

 

isa lng dpat gisihin dyan si Ex Comelec Commissioner Bautista dahil sya ang nakakaalam!

any lawyer for that matter will come up with something to discredit accusations (in case you still don’t know that)... alangan naman bumanat yun kabilang kampo tatahimik na lang si macalintal na abogado ni leni at magpiyesta yun kabilang panig sa nakukuhang media mileage para mapaniwala ang mga tao? sa totoo lang walang panalo kung anuman ang gawin at tiyak na may maihihirit at maihihirit pa rin. etong nag react ang sabi ayun oh kita mo ang bilis magbigay ng alibi kung di nagreact at hinayaan ang sasabihin naman ayun oh hindi agad nakapagreact malamang guilty at walang maisip na dahilan kasi kung hindi nila ginawa eh tiyak madali nila itong pagpasinungalingan.

 

dalawa lang naman yan binasa o nabasa...

kapag nakakita ka ng taong patay may isang tama sa may tagiliran ng ulo at at nakalupasay na may hawak na baril sa kamay which logically appears to be suicide, can you immediately conclude with certainty that the man indeed killed himself? there are reported case na may ganung sitwasyon and it turns out murder pala at pinalalabas na suicide to mislead. alam mo rin na may mga kasong “planted” ang ebidensiya para madiin yun inaakusahan diba? halimbawa laglag bala.

 

pinagpipilitan ninyo binasa ... then prove it. sino yun taong gumawa? paki pinpoint nga at magkaalaman sino nagutos. kung kampo ni robredo then well and good as cheaters don’t deserve to be in public office.

 

malaking dagok sa elektoral protest ni bbm? bakit? eh kung alam naman niyang talo talga siya doon sa presintong yun so pinabasa niya at saka palabasin “dinaya” siya. then request the pet to totally invalidate votes from those ballots? he does not need to prove he really got more votes than what was initially counted in his favor to overcome the slim margin of leni. kayang ungusan yan by deducting votes which he made to appear as tainted or questionable. desperate people can come up with many tricks up their sleeves. for all we know one is desperate to become vp while the other is desperate to remain as vp. but we all dont know the “truth” kaya importanteng mapinpoint kung sino ba nagbasa niyan assuming hindi nga nabasa lang.

 

come to think of it bakit si bautista sisisihin mo? kailan pa ba siya natanggal sa comelec? saka how sure are you he have a hand in all of these? alam mo ba exactly when ito binasa? hindi ba posible na nun dinala na yan dito at saka binasa? hindi ba may naiulat na sabi maayos pa ang itsura ng mga ballot boxes nun naiturnover dito tapos biglang nagyaganyan ang itsura. hindi ba ang sabi din nun abogado mukhang recently lang nabasa ito at parang hindi matagal na. eh sa ngayon sino ba ang may kapangyarihan at nasa kapangyarihan lalu na’t kung dito sa maynila isinagawa yun pagbasa? hindi ba posible na kasabwat yun kasalukuyang admin sa “palabas” na ito para magmukhang may totoong dayaan? alam natin pare-pareho na malakas si bbm sa pangulo at he is the preferred choice to be his vp right? so how can it be totally discounted immediately without solid proof that bbm camp is clean here?

[jcs1000]

 

 

Aba hindi ko kasalanan kung hindi mo naintindihan o iba pala iniisip mo sa pinupunto ko (as always) at you started to fire away. simple lang naman ang tanong sa example eh...just because nakitang nagtatalo yun dalawa eh sigurado ka na yun isa ang pumatay o pinaghihinalaan mo lang? again paghinala vs panigurado. ganun lang ka-simple ang pinaguusapan.

 

kaso mga marcostards ang panay ang sigaw na may daya dahil nabasa. hinala lang ba ito??? natural. Ang sabi ko nga allegations lang yan need magbigay ng proof para paniwalaan ng korte. Hindi sufficient un nag conclude na guity just because sa hinala pero walang pruweba. pero ang sagot nga hindi na nga daw kailangan ipinpoint sino ang may tunay na kagagawan di na need ng proof.

 

so anong mali sa example? sino ba ang dapat pagbintangan? ang turo ng magulang ko sa akin wag basta basta mambintang kung di ka nakakasigurado. so unless may matibay na pruweba wag mambintang. ewan ko kung paano ka pinalaki at ano ang itinuro sa iyo

Yun lang un.

 

tama ka dyan rooster69ph... saludo ako sa pag analyze mo.... kaya pala selective yung pakakabasa... at mas marami pang outcome - ballots compared sa expected voters.. at shaded sya pra kay lugaw...

 

wait na lng natin ... lalabas din totoo sa manipulation na nangyari...

[rooster69ph]

 

tama ka dyan rooster69ph... saludo ako sa pag analyze mo.... kaya pala selective yung pakakabasa... at mas marami pang outcome - ballots compared sa expected voters.. at shaded sya pra kay lugaw...

 

wait na lng natin ... lalabas din totoo sa manipulation na nangyari...

Saan mo naman nakuha yan pinagsasabi mo?

 

Paanong selective ang pagbasa? Halimbawa 100 balota dun sa iisang kahon hindi lahat nabasa? O baka yun kay bbm o kay leni lang specifically binasa?

 

As far as i know wala pang announcement ang pet sa sinasagawang recount hinggil sa irregularidad at kung ano ang pananaw nila diyan. Ang kampo ni bbm ang nagiingay via press na natural sasagutin lang din ng kabilang kampo kahit na may pinagusapang gag order from pet. Ayan nga at pinageexplain na sila.

 

Bottoline di ko naman sinasabing punto ko ang tama at yun sa kabila ay mali tungkol sa issue ng dayaan either meron ba o wala. Wag lang atat at madaling maniwala...kasi parepareho tayong walang access sa tunay na impormasyon at kung ano ang substance ng mga pinagsasabi ng bawat kampo sa pet. at the end of the day ang pet will decide and anu man ang desisyon tanggapin na lang natin. Sa totoo lang di naman tayo pareparehong apektado sa magiging desisyon dahil mga miron lang naman tayo dito.

[will robie]

These are merely allegations. No proofs of who did it...granted somebody really did it at all.

From what planet are you?

Edited April 13, 2018 by will robie

[will robie]

Yeah you dont need to point it out ... as you cant. So how can you convince the court this was intentionally done by the dilawan when you cant even prove or pinpoint a person who did it. Merely by your story? Ako kaya ko din magimbento ng istorya. Binasa yan ng kampo ni bbm tapos isisisi sa dilawan na may ginawang anomalya para mainvalidate lahat ng boto sa balwarte ni leni ayun eh di nahabol na ang malipis na kalamangan. And yeah just like you i can say no need to pinpoint who did it.

I don't need to convince the court. It's all over the news that the ballots were wet. Unless you're from another planet or you're completely clueless, you'd know this news. Or maybe you're just trolling. But then again, it is obvious you are just trolling.

Nakakatawa yan argumento mo walang pinagkaiba yan sa dalawang taong nagmurahan si juan at pedro tapos kabukasan nakitang patay si juan. So ultimano si pedro ba ang guilty sa pagpatay kahit walang makapagturo na siya ang nakitang pumatay o walang ebidensiya na siya ang pumatay.

A stupid and incongruous comparison. That's all I can say for this.

Edited April 13, 2018 by will robie

[will robie]

Nun panahong marcos at cory daming ulat ng election fraud ayaw mo paniwalaan dapat patunayan. Ngayong baligtad ang siywasyon baligtad na rin paninindigan mo. Hahaha sala sa init sala sa lamig ah depende sa panahon.

Can't you move on from that? Just accept the fact that Marcos won that election.

[will robie]

Hindi pa nga nagbotohan madadaya na nga daw si bbm ... naungusan lang sa survey. Pero dont worry malakas ang cry baby kay duterte so tuloy niyo lang ang pagiingay para di obvious yun paglutong makaw kung sakaling humantong sa ganung sitwasyon

You made a dumb and convoluted post which does not really debunk what I posted. But then again, when did you ever debunk what I posted?

Edited April 13, 2018 by will robie

[will robie]

So true ...

 

Leni firmly believe she won fair and square. Thus unlikely she had a hand on that unless you said otherwise and can provide solid evidences.

Who cares about what she believes? Tell your idol to stop being deluded. The signs of cheating are as obvious as day and night.

Edited April 13, 2018 by will robie

[rooster69ph]

From what planet are you?

 

am from earth ...and you?

 

I don't need to convince the court. It's all over the news that the ballots were wet. Unless you're from another planet or you're completely clueless, you'd know this news. Or maybe you're just trolling. But then again, it is obvious you are just trolling.

 

 

 

oh yeah you dont need to convince the court ... why?

 

1. hindi ikaw ang complainant ... isa ka lang marcostard na putak ng putak kung ano ang papabor sa kanya.

 

2. because even if you want to, you cant.

 

and btw since i said i am from this planet i am fully aware (based on the news which came from the camp of bbm) that there were ballots that got wet. but hey that is not the point of contention. what we need to know is it got wet intentionaly or not ... kung binasa o nabasa. if it was intentionally wet, then who did it? bbm o leni. dont be so naive, as i have pointed out earlier it all possibilities it may be the work of bbm too just to be able to cast a doubt on the ballots.

 

walang pinagkaiba yan sa iyo na laging nambibintang na trolling...sa totoo lang alam naman natin parepareho sino at anong nangyari kay james cutter di ba will? uumpisahan mo na naman ba?

 

 

Who cares about what she believes? Tell your idol to stop being deluded. The signs of cheating are as obvious as day and night.

 

signs of cheating are obvious! sabi mo eh kahit hindi mo mapatunayan na sadyang binasa ang balota ...

pero ano na ba sinasabi ng pet? and who do you think is the authority on that matter? ang pet o ikaw? hindi kaya deluded ka rin tulad ng binibintang mo kay leni? deluded like claiming i have not debunk your post. i dont have to debunk your post...you were the one accusing that there was cheating and we know nakanino lagi ang burden of proof. kung pet ang nagsabi ng pinagsasabi mo ngayon maiintindihan ko pa at hindi kailangan nilang patunayan kasi ang trabaho nila is to decide not prove the allegations of cheating.

 

if the pet finally said the ballots were intentionally wet and they think it was done by the camp of leni to alter the result of the election then so be it. i trust that the pet did their investigation/due diligence as compared to a blind follower who decides based on his emotions.

 

 

ps. observation lang pwede naman isang post na lang via multinquote ginawa mong pagreply. nagpapadami ka ba ng post?

Edited April 13, 2018 by rooster69ph

[will robie]

am from earth ...and you?

I thought you were from another planet. I am guessing Uranus since you seem to be really clueless about what's going on in the protest.

Edited April 14, 2018 by will robie

[will robie]

 

oh yeah you dont need to convince the court ... why?

 

1. hindi ikaw ang complainant ... isa ka lang marcostard na putak ng putak kung ano ang papabor sa kanya.

 

2. because even if you want to, you cant.

1. A blatant ad hominem that does not deserve a decent reply.

 

2. I don't need to convince the court because it is already a known fact that the ballots were wet and cheaters do that. If you ask me this question again, I will just put "trolling" in my reply.

Edited April 14, 2018 by will robie

[will robie]

These are merely allegations. No proofs of who did it...granted somebody really did it at all.

 

First you say this...

and btw since i said i am from this planet i am fully aware (based on the news which came from the camp of bbm) that there were ballots that got wet. but hey that is not the point of contention. what we need to know is it got wet intentionaly or not ... kung binasa o nabasa. if it was intentionally wet, then who did it? bbm o leni. dont be so naive, as i have pointed out earlier it all possibilities it may be the work of bbm too just to be able to cast a doubt on the ballots.

Then you say this...

 

A person who is fully aware of what is happening won't say that these are just allegations. You're contradicting yourself again. Haha!

walang pinagkaiba yan sa iyo na laging nambibintang na trolling...sa totoo lang alam naman natin parepareho sino at anong nangyari kay james cutter di ba will? uumpisahan mo na naman ba?

A post totally unconnected to the topic. Yes, this is trolling.

Edited April 14, 2018 by will robie

[will robie]

signs of cheating are obvious! sabi mo eh kahit hindi mo mapatunayan na sadyang binasa ang balota ...

pero ano na ba sinasabi ng pet? and who do you think is the authority on that matter? ang pet o ikaw? hindi kaya deluded ka rin tulad ng binibintang mo kay leni? deluded like claiming i have not debunk your post. i dont have to debunk your post...you were the one accusing that there was cheating and we know nakanino lagi ang burden of proof. kung pet ang nagsabi ng pinagsasabi mo ngayon maiintindihan ko pa at hindi kailangan nilang patunayan kasi ang trabaho nila is to decide not prove the allegations of cheating.

 

Are you really fully aware or do you simply don't understand the implications of what is happening? Ballot boxes don't get wet naturally, let alone a plethora of ballot boxes since they are water proof and sealed before being delivered to the PET. If you're gonna ask me a stupid question after I post this like, "how sure are you that they are water proof and sealed?" I will just laugh at that stupid question because all the ballot boxes that were transported to the PET undergo scrutiny by a lot of eyes before being transported. Cheating in an election is a serious matter since it violates the right to suffrage and checking the ballot boxes before being transported is mandatory.

 

Don't say you don't have to debunk my post because you can't debunk my post. If you don't have to debunk my post, then what is the purpose of your post? To troll?

Edited April 14, 2018 by will robie

[will robie]

 

if the pet finally said the ballots were intentionally wet and they think it was done by the camp of leni to alter the result of the election then so be it. i trust that the pet did their investigation/due diligence as compared to a blind follower who decides based on his emotions.

Like I said, ballot boxes don't get wet naturally. Are you the blind follower of Robredo?

ps. observation lang pwede naman isang post na lang via multinquote ginawa mong pagreply. nagpapadami ka ba ng post?

This moronic post does not deserve an explanation.

Edited April 14, 2018 by will robie

[rooster69ph]

Like I said, ballot boxes don't get wet naturally. Are you the blind follower of Robredo?

 

 

really? hilarious. so now you even have the power to control acts of nature and fortuitous events to be certain of it? nope i am not a blind follower. on the contrary i can see things clearly...i can clearly see the bias in an ever loyal marcostard.

 

but like i said, it could be anybody who did it ...including leni and bbm. you want to pin down leni but have nothing to support your claim except. you can yack all day everyday nothing changes. until then sayonara at baka matulad ako at ma ban cutter

[will robie]

really? hilarious. so now you even have the power to control acts of nature and fortuitous events to be certain of it? nope i am not a blind follower. on the contrary i can see things clearly...i can clearly see the bias in an ever loyal marcostard.

 

What's the connection of power to control the acts of nature to my post? Do you even understand what you're posting? Yes, this post is hilarious because it does not make any sense at all. Haha!

 

If you saw things clearly, you would not say that the wet ballot boxes are mere allegations. You just got discredited again.

 

Trying to discredit me using an ad hominem would only make you look pathetic. Carry on.

Edited April 14, 2018 by will robie

[will robie]

but like i said, it could be anybody who did it ...including leni and bbm. you want to pin down leni but have nothing to support your claim except. you can yack all day everyday nothing changes. until then sayonara at baka matulad ako at ma ban cutter

You can babble nonsense all you want but the fact is the ballots are wet and who stands to benefit from the wet ballots? BBM? I don't think so because those wet ballots would just delay his protest. Robredo's lawyer even gave a lame explanation that the ballot boxes were wet because of a storm. First of all, the ballot boxes are stored in a safe place; second, they don't get wet. The only way for those ballot boxes to be wet is if someone put water in them.

Edited April 14, 2018 by will robie

[rooster69ph]

But you said the wet ballots are just allegations.

 

ayan umpisa na ng papapalusot at pasisinungaling ...

 

pls show me where i EXACTLY said that “wet ballots are just allegations”.

 

hindi lang ikaw nakapalitan ko ng opinion dito sa issue na ito. lahat kami sangayon na may basang balota pero ang pinaguusapan sino ang gumawa (granted hindi nabasa dahil sa bagyo) at paano mapatutunayan. ikaw lang ang bukod tanging ang pagkaintindi eh naiiiba. classic ka talaga

[will robie]

ayan umpisa na ng papapalusot at pasisinungaling ...

 

Ironic

Edited April 14, 2018 by will robie

[rooster69ph]

You can babble nonsense all you want but the fact is the ballots are wet and who stands to benefit from the wet ballots? BBM? I don't think so because those wet ballots would just delay his protest. Robredo's lawyer even gave a lame explanation that the ballot boxes were wet because of a storm. First of all, the ballot boxes are stored in a safe place; second, the don't get wet. The only way for those ballot boxes to be wet is if someone put water in them.

 

what is your basis to authenticate that the ballot boxes were really stored in a “safe place”? so kung safe pala bakit nangyari yun scenario na may nakapagbasa ng mga balota