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#41 simplyeric

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:41 PM

when you said pwede eh did you mean na it is still "ethical hacking?"

and when you said non IT position does that include the CEO or someone in the executive level?



i had to read all the post again kasi parang nauulit yung mga sinasabi ko.
1.the CEO wants you to break into a computer suspected of leaking out info to other companies.
2.based on your job description, you have no legal privilege to do it, and normally you are not authorized to do it in any case
3. the only reason they asked you is because you can

my answer:
1. have the order in written form and signed so you have proof na hindi ikaw ang nagkusang gumawa noon
2. if you have the proof, then do what they want you to do under their supervision. nandun sila habang ginagawa mo yun
3. after you get the info you need and the job is done, include it in your job description and ask for a raise (hahaha)

ethical hacking pa rin in my opinion kasi you did it for a greater good.

#42 average_jo

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 05:40 PM

Hello Guys,

To put it in simple context, it is hacking but with permission. Permission from whom? Can be IT Manager, Can be Owner of the company, Company Director, CEO, COO, CTO or CIO or whoever has the right or authority to order the execution of such activity. Sa course ng Ethical Hacking, ang unang binibigay is waiver or some form of document para hindi sa iyo mapunta ang sisi. If the CEO, wants you to do it, without paper then it might fall between the thin line that separates it. Again, if it is for some personal gain it falls under hacking, if it is to ensure that after the testing we can secure the information or the network then it goes to hacking. It can go around depende kung paano mo titignan. But, again dont let yourself to be the escape goat in the end. It is much better that you have agreement and everything in black and white.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:05 PM

^

Thank you so much for the clarification guys.
I apologize if I was being stubborn and skeptical. Skepticism kinda brings out critical thinking in me and I am trying to draft a security document for the place I work in.

Anyways, from what I read eh, waiver it is. LOL. Sounds really ironic and funny that the only thing that can save you is a piece of paper.

#44 simplyeric

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 11:03 AM

^

Thank you so much for the clarification guys.
I apologize if I was being stubborn and skeptical. Skepticism kinda brings out critical thinking in me and I am trying to draft a security document for the place I work in.

Anyways, from what I read eh, waiver it is. LOL. Sounds really ironic and funny that the only thing that can save you is a piece of paper.



yup,sa mga ganyan, papel at ballpen ang seguridad. that discipline separates the black hat and the white hats...

#45 average_jo

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 02:12 PM

^

Thank you so much for the clarification guys.
I apologize if I was being stubborn and skeptical. Skepticism kinda brings out critical thinking in me and I am trying to draft a security document for the place I work in.

Anyways, from what I read eh, waiver it is. LOL. Sounds really ironic and funny that the only thing that can save you is a piece of paper.


Walang problema Sir. At least we are also enlightened. There are a lot of security documents in the web na pwede mo gamitin. You can check out sans.org or ethicalhacker.net at madaming white papers, security policies etc that you might find useful.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 11:39 AM

sana sa MTC may EB din ang mga ethical hackers...

i would love to share yung maliit na kaalaman ko to secure our fellow MTC peeps (but dont expect an in depth presentation)

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 12:39 PM

When he said non-IT position, he was referring to you. Kung di ka naman in an IT dept, what do you have got to do with hacking. It would be out of your job description.

There's no such thing as ethical hacking unless you are a white hacker.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:05 PM

ethical hacking is when you find the vulnerabilities of the system and report it to the proper person. now, you only break into the computer, find a simple proof of the intrusion (like a useless file, or the screenshot of the desktop) then you make a report to the proper person.

finding proof that a said file exists in a computer and extracting it is black hat or grey hat hacking

the difference, white hat cares about the system, blacks care about the file...

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 01:16 PM

If in doubt, just deploy a DLP solution.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 12:36 PM

If in doubt, just deploy a DLP solution.


Can you kindly elaborate what you meant with this?
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:06 PM

If in doubt, just deploy a DLP solution.


a DLP solution prevents or protects your data or information from leaking out due to unauthorized reasons. it does not prevent the probability of hacking, imho.




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Posted 15 July 2013 - 01:31 PM

Where do you and how do you hire a super hacker? PM me please?

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 02:03 PM

Where do you and how do you hire a super hacker? PM me please?



a super hacker,i guess you need some big ish to be done, i hope its not one of those "i wanna get into ______'s facebook/yahoo/twitter account"


Go tor...

be careful though and do your research.even i do not mess around there...



"a lamb once asked a lion to k*ll another lamb, the lion had 2 lambs for dinner..."

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 03:54 PM

a super hacker,i guess you need some big ish to be done, i hope its not one of those "i wanna get into ______'s facebook/yahoo/twitter account"


Go tor...

be careful though and do your research.even i do not mess around there...



"a lamb once asked a lion to k*ll another lamb, the lion had 2 lambs for dinner..."

thanks i really learn a lot from you. I support na sana may EB din mga intrested sa Ethical Hacking.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 05:46 PM

Where do you and how do you hire a super hacker? PM me please?


you may misinterpret a hacker vs. an ethical hacker.
an ethical hacker always goes by ethics... that is, scope of the activities are defined and the results would be part of compliance. they do the hacks under supervision of a company representative.
a hacker does otherwise.... you will not know when he will attack, and most often or not, causes destruction.
imho.


if you or your company would require an ethical hacker just for the sake of compliance, then there are companies around that offer such services.
but if your intent is to destroy something, then you have to go to the underground hacking communities.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:45 PM

you may misinterpret a hacker vs. an ethical hacker.
an ethical hacker always goes by ethics... that is, scope of the activities are defined and the results would be part of compliance. they do the hacks under supervision of a company representative.
a hacker does otherwise.... you will not know when he will attack, and most often or not, causes destruction.
imho.


if you or your company would require an ethical hacker just for the sake of compliance, then there are companies around that offer such services.
but if your intent is to destroy something, then you have to go to the underground hacking communities.



network security analyst or network penetration tester ang legit na trabaho

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Posted 06 June 2014 - 12:30 AM

network security analyst or network penetration tester ang legit na trabaho


yes, i agree.

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 11:17 AM

Sirs, this may be off topic a bit but I need help and advise.  May I ask if any of you knows how to hack a facebook account without the other person knowing? My friend may be screwing me and causing me sleepless nights wondering. Just want to know the truth. If any of you can help please pm me. Thank you and much appreciated.



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Posted 22 March 2015 - 01:48 PM

everyday white hats and black hats test their limits on the web. they fight but to date still on par.

 

ethical hackers hack a system then tells the owner the weakness of their system

 

black hats hack for money or if they just feel it or to destroy.



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Posted 15 May 2015 - 09:30 AM

I am an IT and like to have couple of "white hat" hacking skill... May I ask for reference or url that you trust?

 

thanks!






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